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1648 091010: Winter 1653 Retreats/Adjustments - Kenshi777   (Feb 25, 2010, 10:52 am)
I use the RP files - but as I'm not a player, perhaps I don't count Smile

B.

On 2/25/10, Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de> wrote:


Hi guys,

the Army of Flanders' long trek across Germany has brought it to the Baltic
shore. Since however Sweden couldn't use its spare builds anyway (as Stettin
and Riga are both blocked), this retreat didn't have any material impact on
the adjustments as Spain chose to waive a build.

BTW, does anyone of you actually use the Realpolitik-Files I've been
attaching to adjucations? As a player I'd find that very useful to work
through various scenarios, but if nobody uses it, I won't include it in
future.

Anyway, preliminary Spring 1654 orders are due on Saturday and the spring
deadline shall follow on Monday, 6 PM CET.

Liebe Grüsse,

Charles

----------
PLAYERS:
AUSTRIA: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
DENMARK-NORWAY: Marc Ellinger <mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com> (eliminated
Winter 1653)
ENGLAND: Harvey Morris <hmtucaz(at)gmail.com>
FRANCE: Nigel Phillips <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
POLAND-LITHUANIA: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
RUSSIA: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> (eliminated Winter 1650)
SPAIN: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
SWEDEN: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net> (joined Winter 1652)
TURKEY: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>

PROCLAMATIONS:
o IMPERIAL ARMY REPAIRS TO RATISBON, SEAT OF THE REICHSTAG
o BREST TEEMING WITH NEW RECRUITS
o ARMY OF FLANDERS REACHES BALTIC SHORE AFTER ITS OWN "LONG MARCH"
o THE SULTAN LOVES HIS WAR GALLEYS, HAREM LADIES FEEL NEGLECTED

PRESS: None. Sad

RETREATS:

Austria:
A Swabia - Bavaria

Spain:
A Lower Saxony - Mecklenburg

ADJUSTMENTS:

France:
Build A Brest

Spain:
Build waived

Turkey:
Build F Constantinople
Build F Damascus


SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP (Winter 1653):

Austria(5): Bavaria, Prague, Saxony, Trieste, Vienna.
England(Cool: Abo, Bristol, Christiania, Ireland, London, Scotland, Stockholm,
United Provinces.
France(10): Brest, Flanders, Lorraine, Marseilles, Paris,
Rhineland-Westphalia, Savoy, Swabia, Switzerland, Venice.
Poland-Lithuania(Cool: Cracow, Lower Saxony, Moscow, Novgorod, Prussia, Vilna,
Voronezh, Warsaw.
Spain(10): Algiers, Madrid, Mecklenburg, Morocco, Naples, Papal States,
Portugal, Seville, Tunis, Tuscany.
Sweden(6): Brandenburg, Copenhagen, Courland, Holstein, Riga, Stettin.
Turkey(11): Belgrade, Candia, Constantinople, Crimea, Damascus, Moldavia,
Persia, Transylvania, Turkestan, Ukraine, Wallachia.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM CET (i.e. GMT+1)...not local
time)
o Spring 1964 Moves: (27) 29 February

MAP:



--
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www.texasdiplomacy.com

http://nairenvorbeck.angelfire.com/
Realpolitik files available here for the Sengoku, Balkans1860, South
American Supremacy, and DarkAges Diplomacy Variants

[Reply]

1648 091010: Winter 1653 Retreats/Adjustments - charlesf   (Feb 25, 2010, 7:32 am)
Hi guys,

the Army of Flanders' long trek across Germany has brought it to the Baltic shore. Since however Sweden couldn't use its spare builds anyway (as Stettin and Riga are both blocked), this retreat didn't have any material impact on the adjustments as Spain chose to waive a build.

BTW, does anyone of you actually use the Realpolitik-Files I've been attaching to adjucations? As a player I'd find that very useful to work through various scenarios, but if nobody uses it, I won't include it in future.

Anyway, preliminary Spring 1654 orders are due on Saturday and the spring deadline shall follow on Monday, 6 PM CET.

Liebe Grüsse,

Charles

----------
PLAYERS:
AUSTRIA: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
DENMARK-NORWAY: Marc Ellinger <mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com> (eliminated Winter 1653)
ENGLAND: Harvey Morris <hmtucaz(at)gmail.com>
FRANCE: Nigel Phillips <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
POLAND-LITHUANIA: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
RUSSIA: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> (eliminated Winter 1650)
SPAIN: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
SWEDEN: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net> (joined Winter 1652)
TURKEY: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>

PROCLAMATIONS:
o IMPERIAL ARMY REPAIRS TO RATISBON, SEAT OF THE REICHSTAG
o BREST TEEMING WITH NEW RECRUITS
o ARMY OF FLANDERS REACHES BALTIC SHORE AFTER ITS OWN "LONG MARCH"
o THE SULTAN LOVES HIS WAR GALLEYS, HAREM LADIES FEEL NEGLECTED

PRESS: None. Sad

RETREATS:

Austria:
A Swabia - Bavaria

Spain:
A Lower Saxony - Mecklenburg

ADJUSTMENTS:

France:
Build A Brest

Spain:
Build waived

Turkey:
Build F Constantinople
Build F Damascus







SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP (Winter 1653):

Austria(5): Bavaria, Prague, Saxony, Trieste, Vienna.
England(Cool: Abo, Bristol, Christiania, Ireland, London, Scotland, Stockholm, United Provinces.
France(10): Brest, Flanders, Lorraine, Marseilles, Paris, Rhineland-Westphalia, Savoy, Swabia, Switzerland, Venice.
Poland-Lithuania(Cool: Cracow, Lower Saxony, Moscow, Novgorod, Prussia, Vilna, Voronezh, Warsaw.
Spain(10): Algiers, Madrid, Mecklenburg, Morocco, Naples, Papal States, Portugal, Seville, Tunis, Tuscany.
Sweden(6): Brandenburg, Copenhagen, Courland, Holstein, Riga, Stettin.
Turkey(11): Belgrade, Candia, Constantinople, Crimea, Damascus, Moldavia, Persia, Transylvania, Turkestan, Ukraine, Wallachia.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM CET (i.e. GMT+1)...not local time)
o Spring 1964 Moves: (27) 29 February

MAP:

[Reply]

1648 091010: Winter 1653 Retreats/Adjustments (dc279) Kenshi777 Feb 25, 10:52 am
I use the RP files - but as I'm not a player, perhaps I don't count Smile

B.

On 2/25/10, Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de> wrote:


Hi guys,

the Army of Flanders' long trek across Germany has brought it to the Baltic
shore. Since however Sweden couldn't use its spare builds anyway (as Stettin
and Riga are both blocked), this retreat didn't have any material impact on
the adjustments as Spain chose to waive a build.

BTW, does anyone of you actually use the Realpolitik-Files I've been
attaching to adjucations? As a player I'd find that very useful to work
through various scenarios, but if nobody uses it, I won't include it in
future.

Anyway, preliminary Spring 1654 orders are due on Saturday and the spring
deadline shall follow on Monday, 6 PM CET.

Liebe Grüsse,

Charles

----------
PLAYERS:
AUSTRIA: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
DENMARK-NORWAY: Marc Ellinger <mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com> (eliminated
Winter 1653)
ENGLAND: Harvey Morris <hmtucaz(at)gmail.com>
FRANCE: Nigel Phillips <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
POLAND-LITHUANIA: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
RUSSIA: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> (eliminated Winter 1650)
SPAIN: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
SWEDEN: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net> (joined Winter 1652)
TURKEY: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>

PROCLAMATIONS:
o IMPERIAL ARMY REPAIRS TO RATISBON, SEAT OF THE REICHSTAG
o BREST TEEMING WITH NEW RECRUITS
o ARMY OF FLANDERS REACHES BALTIC SHORE AFTER ITS OWN "LONG MARCH"
o THE SULTAN LOVES HIS WAR GALLEYS, HAREM LADIES FEEL NEGLECTED

PRESS: None. Sad

RETREATS:

Austria:
A Swabia - Bavaria

Spain:
A Lower Saxony - Mecklenburg

ADJUSTMENTS:

France:
Build A Brest

Spain:
Build waived

Turkey:
Build F Constantinople
Build F Damascus


SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP (Winter 1653):

Austria(5): Bavaria, Prague, Saxony, Trieste, Vienna.
England(Cool: Abo, Bristol, Christiania, Ireland, London, Scotland, Stockholm,
United Provinces.
France(10): Brest, Flanders, Lorraine, Marseilles, Paris,
Rhineland-Westphalia, Savoy, Swabia, Switzerland, Venice.
Poland-Lithuania(Cool: Cracow, Lower Saxony, Moscow, Novgorod, Prussia, Vilna,
Voronezh, Warsaw.
Spain(10): Algiers, Madrid, Mecklenburg, Morocco, Naples, Papal States,
Portugal, Seville, Tunis, Tuscany.
Sweden(6): Brandenburg, Copenhagen, Courland, Holstein, Riga, Stettin.
Turkey(11): Belgrade, Candia, Constantinople, Crimea, Damascus, Moldavia,
Persia, Transylvania, Turkestan, Ukraine, Wallachia.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM CET (i.e. GMT+1)...not local
time)
o Spring 1964 Moves: (27) 29 February

MAP:



--
Diplomacy in Texas!
www.texasdiplomacy.com

http://nairenvorbeck.angelfire.com/
Realpolitik files available here for the Sengoku, Balkans1860, South
American Supremacy, and DarkAges Diplomacy Variants
1648 091010: Winter 1653 Retreats/Adjustments (dc279) charlesf Feb 25, 06:54 pm
You count a little, Ben. Wink

BTW, what dya make of the v3.1 changes I've been working on?

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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Winter 1653 Retreats/Adjustments


I use the RP files - but as I'm not a player, perhaps I don't count Smile

B.

1648: Variant Changes - charlesf   (Feb 22, 2010, 8:18 pm)
Jorge,

the Med may become a real drain on Spanish and Turkish resources, simply because there's more ground to cover. This is supposed to counteract their positional advantage of being corner powers.

The opportunities for a decisive campaign are greater, which in turn may compell other powers to engage in the Med when they might have not under previous variant versions.

That being said, Turkey and Spain are now actually farther apart. So perhaps that might help some find a peaceful settlement in the Med.

The Gulf of Sidra is the least certain change. But I like having a real southern axis of advance. Gives especially Turkey more potential leverage over Tunis, which is part of the wider rebalancing scheme.

More fluidity and drama. That's what I'm gunning for.

Cheers,

Charles

Hi Charles,


One of the maps you sent me didn't have SOS and GOS, so now I can see everything you described. All of the changes work for me in accomplishing what you seek. It creates more fluidity in NW Europe, gives France a better shot at the HRE, cuts the one overpowered nation (Spain) down to size, and creates a more interesting Med situation. Given that the Med will still probably be a Turco-Spanish affair, I don't know that you need the extra centers for more maneuverability, and you may not need GOS. Finally, while these changes will all contribute to more fluidity, and therefore more stabs, it's still a good idea to see what happens if you reduce the winning number to 15.


Jorge

[Reply]

1648: Variant Changes - txurce   (Feb 22, 2010, 7:55 pm)
Hi Charles,

One of the maps you sent me didn't have SOS and GOS, so now I can see everything you described.  All of the changes work for me in accomplishing what you seek.  It creates more fluidity in NW Europe, gives France a better shot at the HRE, cuts the one overpowered nation (Spain) down to size, and creates a more interesting Med situation.  Given that the Med will still probably be a Turco-Spanish affair, I don't know that you need the extra centers for more maneuverability, and you may not need GOS.  Finally, while these changes will all contribute to more fluidity, and therefore more stabs, it's still a good idea to see what happens if you reduce the winning number to 15.


Jorge

2010/2/22 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])>

Hi guys,
 
lately I've been considering a number of changes to the variant. Since I thought you might be interested in what I'm planning for 1648 and appreciate any feedback, here's a brief overview of the various changes I have in mind:
 
1) MERE 15 SCs REQUIRED FOR A SOLO VICTORY:
 
In other words, you need only 26% rather than 31% of all SCs to become the continent's hegemon. This is supposed to both make solos easier to achieve and tempt players to stab more often.
 
2) ADDITION OF LUXEMBOURG BUFFER SPACE:
 
Not only does this afford all player more room for manoeuvre, but it grants France better access to the Empire and removes the intitial leverage the Spanish Army of Flanders enjoys over Lorraine, to date the primary gateway for France towards the East.
 
3) VENICE & TUSCANY NO LONGER ADJACENT:
 
Lombardy's importance is enhanced now that it also borders the Papal States. This somewhat lessens Franco-Austrian friction as spheres of interest in Italy are more easily separated. There's now also a symmetry regarding the number of minor powers may lend support Austrian and French attempts in taking their respective Italian "natural SCs". Which means also that Austria can more easily kept out of Italy than under the present rules.
 
Much as the addition of Luxembourg, this change is in part explained by my desire to help France. 
 
4) ADDITION OF STRAIT OF SICILY & GULF OF SIDRA SEA SPACES:
 
This equally provides greater room for manoeuvre. The Tyrrhenian was too much of a bottleneck, for my tastes. Sardinia and Sicily both gain greater relevance. Spain's Naples becomes more of an outpost considering the now greater distance to Sevilla. And Tunis is further removed from Spain's power base. Indeed, I think the power balance in the Med considerably shifts towards Turkey. So Spain has quite a bit more on its plate, which in turn affects France's fortunes. I'd argue Spain now feels really thinly spread, much as it was historically.
 
Now, the Ionian remains as central in Spanish-Turkish affairs. But there's now also a Southern line of advance across the Mediterranean.
 
Anyway, what do you think of these changes shown on the below map? And if you have any ideas of your own as what to change, I'd be interested in those too. Smile
 
Cheers,
 
Charles
 
 


[Reply]

1648: Variant Changes - charlesf   (Feb 22, 2010, 7:36 pm)
Hi guys,

lately I've been considering a number of changes to the variant. Since I thought you might be interested in what I'm planning for 1648 and appreciate any feedback, here's a brief overview of the various changes I have in mind:

1) MERE 15 SCs REQUIRED FOR A SOLO VICTORY:

In other words, you need only 26% rather than 31% of all SCs to become the continent's hegemon. This is supposed to both make solos easier to achieve and tempt players to stab more often.

2) ADDITION OF LUXEMBOURG BUFFER SPACE:

Not only does this afford all player more room for manoeuvre, but it grants France better access to the Empire and removes the intitial leverage the Spanish Army of Flanders enjoys over Lorraine, to date the primary gateway for France towards the East.

3) VENICE & TUSCANY NO LONGER ADJACENT:

Lombardy's importance is enhanced now that it also borders the Papal States. This somewhat lessens Franco-Austrian friction as spheres of interest in Italy are more easily separated. There's now also a symmetry regarding the number of minor powers may lend support Austrian and French attempts in taking their respective Italian "natural SCs". Which means also that Austria can more easily kept out of Italy than under the present rules.

Much as the addition of Luxembourg, this change is in part explained by my desire to help France.

4) ADDITION OF STRAIT OF SICILY & GULF OF SIDRA SEA SPACES:

This equally provides greater room for manoeuvre. The Tyrrhenian was too much of a bottleneck, for my tastes. Sardinia and Sicily both gain greater relevance. Spain's Naples becomes more of an outpost considering the now greater distance to Sevilla. And Tunis is further removed from Spain's power base. Indeed, I think the power balance in the Med considerably shifts towards Turkey. So Spain has quite a bit more on its plate, which in turn affects France's fortunes. I'd argue Spain now feels really thinly spread, much as it was historically.

Now, the Ionian remains as central in Spanish-Turkish affairs. But there's now also a Southern line of advance across the Mediterranean.

Anyway, what do you think of these changes shown on the below map? And if you have any ideas of your own as what to change, I'd be interested in those too. Smile

Cheers,

Charles

[Reply]

1648: Variant Changes (dc279) txurce Feb 22, 07:55 pm
Hi Charles,

One of the maps you sent me didn't have SOS and GOS, so now I can see everything you described.  All of the changes work for me in accomplishing what you seek.  It creates more fluidity in NW Europe, gives France a better shot at the HRE, cuts the one overpowered nation (Spain) down to size, and creates a more interesting Med situation.  Given that the Med will still probably be a Turco-Spanish affair, I don't know that you need the extra centers for more maneuverability, and you may not need GOS.  Finally, while these changes will all contribute to more fluidity, and therefore more stabs, it's still a good idea to see what happens if you reduce the winning number to 15.


Jorge

2010/2/22 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])>

Hi guys,
 
lately I've been considering a number of changes to the variant. Since I thought you might be interested in what I'm planning for 1648 and appreciate any feedback, here's a brief overview of the various changes I have in mind:
 
1) MERE 15 SCs REQUIRED FOR A SOLO VICTORY:
 
In other words, you need only 26% rather than 31% of all SCs to become the continent's hegemon. This is supposed to both make solos easier to achieve and tempt players to stab more often.
 
2) ADDITION OF LUXEMBOURG BUFFER SPACE:
 
Not only does this afford all player more room for manoeuvre, but it grants France better access to the Empire and removes the intitial leverage the Spanish Army of Flanders enjoys over Lorraine, to date the primary gateway for France towards the East.
 
3) VENICE & TUSCANY NO LONGER ADJACENT:
 
Lombardy's importance is enhanced now that it also borders the Papal States. This somewhat lessens Franco-Austrian friction as spheres of interest in Italy are more easily separated. There's now also a symmetry regarding the number of minor powers may lend support Austrian and French attempts in taking their respective Italian "natural SCs". Which means also that Austria can more easily kept out of Italy than under the present rules.
 
Much as the addition of Luxembourg, this change is in part explained by my desire to help France. 
 
4) ADDITION OF STRAIT OF SICILY & GULF OF SIDRA SEA SPACES:
 
This equally provides greater room for manoeuvre. The Tyrrhenian was too much of a bottleneck, for my tastes. Sardinia and Sicily both gain greater relevance. Spain's Naples becomes more of an outpost considering the now greater distance to Sevilla. And Tunis is further removed from Spain's power base. Indeed, I think the power balance in the Med considerably shifts towards Turkey. So Spain has quite a bit more on its plate, which in turn affects France's fortunes. I'd argue Spain now feels really thinly spread, much as it was historically.
 
Now, the Ionian remains as central in Spanish-Turkish affairs. But there's now also a Southern line of advance across the Mediterranean.
 
Anyway, what do you think of these changes shown on the below map? And if you have any ideas of your own as what to change, I'd be interested in those too. Smile
 
Cheers,
 
Charles
 
 


1648: Variant Changes (dc279) charlesf Feb 22, 08:18 pm
Jorge,

the Med may become a real drain on Spanish and Turkish resources, simply because there's more ground to cover. This is supposed to counteract their positional advantage of being corner powers.

The opportunities for a decisive campaign are greater, which in turn may compell other powers to engage in the Med when they might have not under previous variant versions.

That being said, Turkey and Spain are now actually farther apart. So perhaps that might help some find a peaceful settlement in the Med.

The Gulf of Sidra is the least certain change. But I like having a real southern axis of advance. Gives especially Turkey more potential leverage over Tunis, which is part of the wider rebalancing scheme.

More fluidity and drama. That's what I'm gunning for.

Cheers,

Charles

Hi Charles,


One of the maps you sent me didn't have SOS and GOS, so now I can see everything you described. All of the changes work for me in accomplishing what you seek. It creates more fluidity in NW Europe, gives France a better shot at the HRE, cuts the one overpowered nation (Spain) down to size, and creates a more interesting Med situation. Given that the Med will still probably be a Turco-Spanish affair, I don't know that you need the extra centers for more maneuverability, and you may not need GOS. Finally, while these changes will all contribute to more fluidity, and therefore more stabs, it's still a good idea to see what happens if you reduce the winning number to 15.


Jorge

1648 091010: Fall 1653 Moves - charlesf   (Feb 22, 2010, 1:12 pm)
Hi guys,

the broad front that stretches from Scandinavia down to the Central Mediterranean has been subjected to a fair number of alterations. For starters, Polish lancers have charged across the North German Plain, French regiments taken back Swabia and the Spaniards ousted the Turks from Naples, while losing a number of key positions in that Southern theatre.

Retreats/Adjustments are due NLT 6 PM CET this coming Wednesday. Note that the retreats do affect adjustments, so you may want to submit adjustment orders conditioned on what especially the Spanish retreat shall amount to.

Liebe Grüsse,

Charles

----------
PLAYERS:
AUSTRIA: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
DENMARK-NORWAY: Marc Ellinger <mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com> (eliminated Winter 1653)
ENGLAND: Harvey Morris <hmtucaz(at)gmail.com>
FRANCE: Nigel Phillips <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
POLAND-LITHUANIA: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
RUSSIA: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> (eliminated Winter 1650)
SPAIN: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
SWEDEN: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net> (joined Winter 1652)
TURKEY: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>

PROCLAMATIONS:
o GERMAN ELECTORS RUMOURED TO BE CONSIDERING ALTERNATIVE CANDIDATES FOR THE IMPERIAL THRONE
o STRONG ENGLISH PRESENCE IN SCANDINAVIA FURTHER REINFORCED
o FRENCH TAKE BACK SWABIA
o POLISH LANCERS REACH NORTH SEA
o SPANIARDS REASSERT THEIR CONTROL OVER NAPLES
o BRANDENBURG ONCE AGAIN IN SWEDISH HANDS
o SULTAN BOASTS OF POSITIONAL GAINS IN CENTRAL MEDITERRANEAN

PRESS: None. Sad

ORDERS:

Austria:
A Bavaria - Tyrolia
A Hesse Supports A Swabia - Rhineland-Westphalia
A Saxony Supports A Brandenburg - Lower Saxony
A Swabia - Rhineland-Westphalia (*Dislodged*)
A Trieste Supports A Bavaria - Tyrolia

England:
A Abo Supports A Scotland - Karelia (*Cut*)
A London - Christiania
F North Sea Convoys A London - Christiania
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Scotland - Karelia
F Scania - Stockholm(ec)
A Scotland - Karelia (*Bounce*)
F Skagerrak - Scania
A Stockholm - Lapland

France:
F Copenhagen - Helgoland Bight
A Dauphiné - Savoy
F Flanders - English Channel
A Lombardy Supports A Venice
A Lorraine Supports A Rhineland-Westphalia - Swabia
A Normandy - Flanders
A Rhineland-Westphalia - Swabia
A Switzerland Supports A Rhineland-Westphalia - Swabia
A Venice Supports A Switzerland

Poland-Lithuania:
A Brandenburg - Lower Saxony
A Ingria - Abo (*Fails*)
A Novgorod - Karelia (*Bounce*)
A Prussia Supports A Warsaw - Greater Poland
A Samogitia Supports A Courland (*Ordered to Move*)
A Smolensk - Polotsk
A Warsaw - Greater Poland
A White Ruthenia - Vilna

Spain:
F Adriatic Sea - Naples
A Algiers Supports F Western Mediterranean - Tunis
A Lower Saxony - Saxony (*Dislodged*)
F Papal States(ec) Supports F Adriatic Sea - Naples
F Sardinia Supports F Tyrrhenian Sea
A Seville Hold
F Sicily - Ionian Sea (*Disbanded*)
A Tunis - Tuscany
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Tuscany
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis

Sweden:
F Baltic Sea Supports F Gulf of Bothnia - Courland
A Courland - Riga
F Gulf of Bothnia - Courland
A Mecklenburg - Brandenburg
A Stettin Supports A Mecklenburg - Brandenburg

Turkey:
A Croatia Supports A Trieste
F Dalmatia - Adriatic Sea
F Egypt Supports F Ionian Sea
A Hungary - Slovakia
F Illyria Supports F Ionian Sea
F Ionian Sea Supports F Naples - Sicily
F Naples - Sicily
A Permia Hold
A Ukraine Hold

PENDING RETREATS:

Spanish A Lower Saxony can retreat to Holstein or Mecklenburg, Rhineland-Westphalia, United Provinces or OTB.
Austrian A Swabia can retreat to Bavaria or OTB.

PENDING ADJUSTMENTS:

Austria:
Build?

England:
Remove?


France:
Build?

Spain:
Build?

Turkey:
Build
Build







SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP (Winter 1652):

Austria(5): Bavaria, Prague, Saxony, Trieste, Vienna.
Denmark-Norway(1): Stettin.
England(Cool: Abo, Bristol, Christiania, Ireland, London, Scotland, Stockholm, United Provinces.
France(10): Brest, Flanders, Lorraine, Marseilles, Paris, Rhineland-Westphalia, Savoy, Swabia, Switzerland, Venice.
Poland-Lithuania(Cool: Brandenburg, Cracow, Moscow, Novgorod, Prussia, Vilna, Voronezh, Warsaw.
Spain(10): Algiers, Lower Saxony, Madrid, Morocco, Naples, Papal States, Portugal, Seville, Tunis, Tuscany.
Sweden(5): Copenhagen, Courland, Holstein, Mecklenburg, Riga.
Turkey(10): Belgrade, Candia, Constantinople, Crimea, Damascus, Moldavia, Persia, Transylvania, Turkestan, Wallachia.
Ukraine(1): Ukraine.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM CET (i.e. GMT+1)...not local time)
o Winter 1653 Retreats/Adjustments: 24 February
o Spring 1964 Moves: (27) 29 February

ORDERS MAP:


RESULTS MAP:

[Reply]

1648 091010: Spring 1653 Moves - charlesf   (Feb 15, 2010, 7:02 pm)
Hi guys,

time to say goodbye to Marc. After a long struggle, the exiled Danish monarch has succumbed to Swedish numerical superiority. Marc, thanks for playing and soldiering on until the final curtain. Please don't forget to send me your EOG.

Elsewhere, the Turks and Austrians have made gains against the Western alliance. And the unruly Ukrainian Cossacks appear to have finally lost their independence.

No retreats are due so we move directly on to the fall. Please send me your preliminary orders before Saturday 6PM CET. And then next Monday's again deadline time.

Liebe Grüsse,

Charles

----------
PLAYERS:
AUSTRIA: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
DENMARK-NORWAY: Marc Ellinger <mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com>
ENGLAND: Harvey Morris <hmtucaz(at)gmail.com>
FRANCE: Nigel Phillips <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
POLAND-LITHUANIA: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
RUSSIA: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> (eliminated Winter 1650)
SPAIN: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
SWEDEN: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net> (joined Winter 1652)
TURKEY: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>

PROCLAMATIONS:
o IMPERIAL TROOPS DEFEAT BOURBON ARMY NEAR ULM
o DANISH MONARCH ABDICATES
o ENGLISH LANDING IN KARELIA FAILS
o JANISSARIES LOOT TARENTO
o UKRAINIAN COSSACKS RECOGNISE THE SULTAN AS THEIR OVERLORD

PRESS: None. Sad

ORDERS:

Austria:
A Bavaria Supports A Tyrolia - Swabia
A Hesse - Rhineland-Westphalia (*Fails*)
A Saxony Supports A Tyrolia - Swabia
A Trieste Hold
A Tyrolia - Swabia

Denmark-Norway:
A Stettin Supports A Brandenburg (*Disbanded*)

England:
A Abo Supports A Scotland - Karelia (*Cut*)
A London Hold
F North Sea - Skagerrak
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Scotland - Karelia
A Scotland - Karelia (*Bounce*)
F Skagerrak - Scania
A Stockholm Supports F Skagerrak - Scania
F United Provinces - North Sea

France:
A Brest - Normandy
A Dauphiné - Switzerland
F Flanders Hold
F Helgoland Bight - Copenhagen
A Lombardy Supports A Dauphiné - Switzerland
A Lorraine Supports A Swabia
A Paris - Dauphiné
A Rhineland-Westphalia Supports A Swabia (*Cut*)
A Swabia Supports A Dauphiné - Switzerland (*Disbanded*)
A Venice Hold

Poland-Lithuania:
A Brandenburg - Lower Saxony (*Fails*)
A Ingria - Abo (*Fails*)
A Novgorod - Karelia (*Bounce*)
A Prussia Hold
A Smolensk - Novgorod (*Fails*)
A Vilna - Samogitia
A Warsaw Supports A Prussia
A White Ruthenia Supports A Crimea - Ukraine

Spain:
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Algiers Supports A Tunis
A Lower Saxony - Brandenburg (*Fails*)
F Naples - Sicily
F Papal States(ec) Supports A Venice
A Portugal - Seville
F Seville - Western Mediterranean
A Tunis Hold
F Tyrrhenian Sea Supports F Naples - Sicily
F Western Mediterranean - Sardinia

Sweden:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Mecklenburg - Stettin
F Courland - Gulf of Bothnia
A Holstein - Mecklenburg
A Mecklenburg - Stettin
A Riga - Courland

Turkey:
A Belgrade - Hungary
F Candia - Ionian Sea
F Constantinople - Illyria
A Crimea - Ukraine
A Croatia Supports A Trieste
F Egypt Supports F Candia - Ionian Sea
F Illyria - Dalmatia
F Ionian Sea - Naples
A Siberia - Permia
F Sicily Supports F Ionian Sea - Naples (*Disbanded*)

Ukraine:
A Ukraine Hold (*Disbanded*)







SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP (Winter 1652):

Austria(5): Bavaria, Prague, Saxony, Trieste, Vienna.
Denmark-Norway(1): Stettin.
England(Cool: Abo, Bristol, Christiania, Ireland, London, Scotland, Stockholm, United Provinces.
France(10): Brest, Flanders, Lorraine, Marseilles, Paris, Rhineland-Westphalia, Savoy, Swabia, Switzerland, Venice.
Poland-Lithuania(Cool: Brandenburg, Cracow, Moscow, Novgorod, Prussia, Vilna, Voronezh, Warsaw.
Spain(10): Algiers, Lower Saxony, Madrid, Morocco, Naples, Papal States, Portugal, Seville, Tunis, Tuscany.
Sweden(5): Copenhagen, Courland, Holstein, Mecklenburg, Riga.
Turkey(10): Belgrade, Candia, Constantinople, Crimea, Damascus, Moldavia, Persia, Transylvania, Turkestan, Wallachia.
Ukraine(1): Ukraine.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM CET (i.e. GMT+1)...not local time)
o Fall 1653 Moves: 22 February

ORDERS MAP:


RESULTS MAP:

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1648 091010: Winter 1652 Retreats/Adjustments - charlesf   (Feb 09, 2010, 1:21 pm)
Hi guys,

battle-hardened mercenaries currently appear to be more in demand than sailors. Are Europe's statesmen anticipating a decision on land rather than at high sea?

As previously detailed, I mean to now shift to a Monday/Wednesday route. And so the spring season is scheduled for next Monday, though please send me your preliminary orders before Saturday 6PM CET.

Liebe Grüsse,

Charles

----------
PLAYERS:
AUSTRIA: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
DENMARK-NORWAY: Marc Ellinger <mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com>
ENGLAND: Harvey Morris <hmtucaz(at)gmail.com>
FRANCE: Nigel Phillips <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
POLAND-LITHUANIA: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
RUSSIA: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> (eliminated Winter 1650)
SPAIN: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
SWEDEN: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])> (joined Winter 1652)
TURKEY: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>

PROCLAMATIONS:
o EUROPE'S RULERS MORE INTERESTED IN NEW REGIMENTS THAN SHIPS OF THE LINE

PRESS: None. Sad

RETREATS:

Austria:
A Swabia - Bavaria

Poland-Lithuania:
disband A Courland

Sweden:
disband A Smolensk

ADJUSTMENTS:

Austria:
Remove A Vienna

Denmark-Norway:
Remove F Scania

England:
Build A Scotland
Build A London

France:
Build A Brest
Build A Paris

Poland-Lithuania:
Build A Warsaw

Sweden:
Remove A Polotsk

Turkey:
Build A Belgrade






SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP (Winter 1652):

Austria(5): Bavaria, Prague, Saxony, Trieste, Vienna.
Denmark-Norway(1): Stettin.
England(Cool: Abo, Bristol, Christiania, Ireland, London, Scotland, Stockholm, United Provinces.
France(10): Brest, Flanders, Lorraine, Marseilles, Paris, Rhineland-Westphalia, Savoy, Swabia, Switzerland, Venice.
Poland-Lithuania(Cool: Brandenburg, Cracow, Moscow, Novgorod, Prussia, Vilna, Voronezh, Warsaw.
Spain(10): Algiers, Lower Saxony, Madrid, Morocco, Naples, Papal States, Portugal, Seville, Tunis, Tuscany.
Sweden(5): Copenhagen, Courland, Holstein, Mecklenburg, Riga.
Turkey(10): Belgrade, Candia, Constantinople, Crimea, Damascus, Moldavia, Persia, Transylvania, Turkestan, Wallachia.
Ukraine(1): Ukraine.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM CET (i.e. GMT+1)...not local time)
o Spring 1653 Moves: (13) 15 January

MAP:

[Reply]

1648 091010: The Swedish Cavalry has arrived! - charlesf   (Feb 07, 2010, 1:05 pm)
Hi guys,

I trust you share my relief that after the recent turmoil, Matt Kelly, a player who hasn't NMRed once in 13 games, has kindly stepped forward and taken over the Swedish realm.

In the interest of getting the game on track again, I'm scheduling the winter dealine for Tuesday, 6 PM CET. Unless anyone objects, I'll from this point onwards not go with the past Wednesday/Friday routine, but rather try to adhere to a Monday/Wednesday schedule.

Liebe Grüsse,

Charles

----------
PLAYERS:
AUSTRIA: Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com>
DENMARK-NORWAY: Marc Ellinger <mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com>
ENGLAND: Harvey Morris <hmtucaz(at)gmail.com>
FRANCE: Nigel Phillips <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com>
POLAND-LITHUANIA: Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
RUSSIA: Mikael Johansson <m_don_j(at)hotmail.com> (eliminated Winter 1650)
SPAIN: Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com>
SWEDEN: Matthew Kelly <kelly058(at)verizon.net ([email]kelly058(at)verizon.net[/email])> (joined Winter 1652)
TURKEY: Aidan Slattery <AiSlattery(at)aol.com>

PROCLAMATIONS:
o QUEEN CHRISTINA ABDICATES, CHARLES X CROWNED!

PRESS: None. Sad

ORDERS:

Austria:
A Hesse - Rhineland-Westphalia (*Fails*)
A Saxony Supports A Swabia (*Cut*)
A Swabia Supports A Hesse - Rhineland-Westphalia (*Dislodged*)
A Trieste Supports F Adriatic Sea - Venice (*Void*)
A Tyrolia - Switzerland (*Bounce*)
A Vienna Supports A Trieste

Denmark-Norway:
F Scania - Baltic Sea (*Fails*)
A Stettin - Mecklenburg (*Bounce*)

England:
A Bohuslan - Stockholm
A Karelia - Abo
F North Sea Hold
F Norwegian Sea Hold
F Skagerrak Supports A Bohuslan - Stockholm
F United Provinces Hold

France:
F Flanders Hold
F Helgoland Bight - Copenhagen (*Bounce*)
A Lombardy - Switzerland (*Bounce*)
A Lorraine Supports A Switzerland - Swabia
A Paris - Dauphiné
A Rhineland-Westphalia Supports A Switzerland - Swabia (*Cut*)
A Switzerland - Swabia
A Venice - Tyrolia (*Fails*)

Poland-Lithuania:
A Brandenburg - Mecklenburg (*Bounce*)
A Courland - Polotsk (*Dislodged*)
A Ingria Supports A Karelia - Abo
A Moscow - Smolensk
A Novgorod Supports A Moscow - Smolensk
A Prussia - Courland (*Fails*)
A Vilna Supports A Moscow - Smolensk
A Volhynia - White Ruthenia

Spain:
F Adriatic Sea - Dalmatia (*Bounce*)
A Algiers Supports F Western Mediterranean - Tunis (*Fails*)
A Lower Saxony - Saxony (*Fails*)
F Naples Supports F Papal States(ec) - Adriatic Sea (*Fails*)
F Papal States(ec) - Adriatic Sea (*Fails*)
A Portugal Hold
F Seville - Western Mediterranean (*Fails*)
A Tunis - Papal States (*Fails*)
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Papal States
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis (*Fails*)

Sweden:
F Baltic Sea - Stettin (*Fails*)
F Gulf of Bothnia - Courland
A Holstein - Copenhagen (*Bounce*)
A Mecklenburg Supports F Baltic Sea - Stettin (*Cut*)
A Polotsk Supports A Smolensk - Vilna (*Cut*)
A Riga Supports F Gulf of Bothnia - Courland
A Smolensk - Vilna (*Dislodged*)

Turkey:
A Belgrade - Croatia
F Candia Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Constantinople - Illyria (*Fails*)
A Crimea Hold
F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Egypt Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Ionian Sea
F Illyria - Dalmatia (*Bounce*)
F Ionian Sea - Sicily
A Siberia Supports A Novgorod

Ukraine:
A Ukraine Hold

PENDING RETREATS:

Polish A Courland can retreat to Samogitia or OTB.
Swedish A Smolensk can retreat to Pskov or OTB.
Austrian A Swabia can retreat to Bavaria or OTB.

PENDING ADJUSTMENTS:

Austria:
Remove?

Denmark-Norway:
Remove

England:
Build
Build

France:
Build
Build

Poland-Lithuania:
Build?

Sweden:
Remove
Remove?

Turkey:
Build






SUPPLY CENTER OWNERSHIP:
Austria(6): Bavaria, Saxony, Swabia, Prague, Trieste, Vienna.
Denmark-Norway(2): Mecklenburg, Stockholm.
England(6): Bristol, Christiania, Ireland, London, Scotland, United Provinces.
France(Cool: Brest, Flanders, Lorraine, Marseille, Paris, Savoy, Switzerland, Venice.
Poland-Lithuania(Cool: Courland, Cracow, Crimea, Moscow, Prussia, Vilna, Voronezh, Warsaw.
Russia(0): -
Spain(10): Algiers, Lower Saxony, Madrid, Morocco, Naples, Portugal, Rhineland-Westphalia, Sevilla, Tuscany, Tunis.
Sweden(7): Abo, Brandenburg, Copenhagen, Holstein, Novgorod, Riga, Stettin.
Turkey(9): Belgrade, Candia, Constantinople, Damascus, Moldavia, Persia, Transylvania, Turkestan, Wallachia.
Minor Powers(2): Papal States, Ukraine.

DEADLINE SCHEDULE: (all orders are due NLT 6PM CET (i.e. GMT+1)...not local time)
o Winter 1652 Retreats/Adjustments: 5 January
o Spring 1653 Moves: (Cool 10 January



ORDERS MAP:


RESULTS MAP:

[Reply]

1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - hmtucaz   (Feb 06, 2010, 1:36 pm)
Charles -

I echo Dirk's comments.

Harvey

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:


Charles,
 
Speaking only for myself, the frustration is a product of your not being forthcoming with the reasons-why there are delays. While on one hand it is thoughtful to protect a struggling player on the other it creates uncertainty and anxiety for the others as there are frequent starts and stops. If rationale around delays were accompanied by targeted restart times this would have made the troubles this game has had much less disruptive.
 
If you are willing and able to GM in your historically punctual manner and we have a full slate of dedicated players I would prefer to continue. However given that, apparently, the new Sweden has contacted literally no one it seems we are a ways from getting toward being on track.
 
Dirk
 
 
 
From: charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email]) [mailto:charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:46 PM
To: dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); 'Harvey Morris'; 'Jorge Saralegui'
Cc: 'Marc Ellinger'; 'Nigel PHILLIPS'; gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); 'Mikael Johansson'; 'Mike Leprecaun'
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation



 
Guys,


 

as it so happens, our replacement failed to submit orders. Despite my repeated warnings to him.

 

Such is the risk of taking on a newbie to the site.

 

Since I wanted to give him a chance to explain himself, I did not detail in my earlier note to you the reason for this delay. I was all set yesterday to get the adjucation out. Hoping for a last-minute arrival of Sweden's orders.

 

Believe me, this frustrates me as much as it does you.

 

I was hoping to have this game back on a smooth track. While I admittedly dragged my feet in getting a replacement, I don't see how I can be faulted here. I am committed to running this game smoothly to its conclusion. But if you guys want to end this in another way, that's your choice.

 

Charles




[Reply]

1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - charlesf   (Feb 06, 2010, 1:33 pm)
Jorge's memory serves me better than mine. Nick was involved in a truly massive number of games and simply couldn't keep up.

With regard to Nick, the original Austrian leader, my understanding is that Charles did not ask him to leave. There's little doubt that a player not talking in a game based on talking whose position is in the center of the map is doing the overall game a disservice. I was certainly not happy with it, and neither were at least some of the other players. When Charles inquired to Nick about his unusual lack of engagement, Nick replied that RL had overwhelmed him and he was sticking with the game only out of minimal commitment. Charles then offered to replace him, and Nick accepted, with very graceful apologies to all.

[Reply]

1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - dknemeyer   (Feb 06, 2010, 1:31 pm)
Charles,

Speaking only for myself, the frustration is a product of your not being forthcoming with the reasons-why there are delays. While on one hand it is thoughtful to protect a struggling player on the other it creates uncertainty and anxiety for the others as there are frequent starts and stops. If rationale around delays were accompanied by targeted restart times this would have made the troubles this game has had much less disruptive.

If you are willing and able to GM in your historically punctual manner and we have a full slate of dedicated players I would prefer to continue. However given that, apparently, the new Sweden has contacted literally no one it seems we are a ways from getting toward being on track.

Dirk



From: charlesf(at)web.de [mailto:charlesf(at)web.de]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:46 PM
To: dirk(at)knemeyer.com; 'Harvey Morris'; 'Jorge Saralegui'
Cc: 'Marc Ellinger'; 'Nigel PHILLIPS'; gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; 'Mikael Johansson'; 'Mike Leprecaun'
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation



Guys,



as it so happens, our replacement failed to submit orders. Despite my repeated warnings to him.



Such is the risk of taking on a newbie to the site.



Since I wanted to give him a chance to explain himself, I did not detail in my earlier note to you the reason for this delay. I was all set yesterday to get the adjucation out. Hoping for a last-minute arrival of Sweden's orders.



Believe me, this frustrates me as much as it does you.



I was hoping to have this game back on a smooth track. While I admittedly dragged my feet in getting a replacement, I don't see how I can be faulted here. I am committed to running this game smoothly to its conclusion. But if you guys want to end this in another way, that's your choice.



Charles

[Reply]

1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - txurce   (Feb 06, 2010, 1:03 pm)
With regard to Nick, the original Austrian leader, my understanding is that Charles did not ask him to leave.  There's little doubt that a player not talking in a game based on talking whose position is in the center of the map is doing the overall game a disservice.  I was certainly not happy with it, and neither were at least some of the other players.  When Charles inquired to Nick about his unusual lack of engagement, Nick replied that RL had overwhelmed him and he was sticking with the game only out of minimal commitment.  Charles then offered to replace him, and Nick accepted, with very graceful apologies to all.

I'm glad to hear from Charles as to why there was no adjudication, which certainly isn't his fault.  That said, after having revived myself for Gabriele, I'm not looking forward to another delay in a game seemingly headed for stalemate anyway.  I would reluctantly prefer to end the game with a DIAS.


Jorge

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Nigel PHILLIPS <nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email])> wrote:

FWIW, I was annoyed at the manner of austria's departure, and discussed with Dirk and Harvey my concern sat that stage, and was persuaded to carry on. From what I remember  it seemed to me that Charles was imposing a style of play as a requirement on someone who was submitting moves, but not talking. I prefer conversations with other players, but don't see silence as  areason for a player to be expelled. But I may be mis-remembering or misinterpreting. i am enjoying the actual play, and the variant and players. I'd happily try it again. I am reluctant to have the dias, because I'd love to see how the game might turn out, (will austria fall? will there be a mass stalemate in the centre?) but I wouldn't continue it with so many wishing to end it, so I wouldn't block the dias. I don't always understand Charles' messages, or share his reasoning 

Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:09:24 -0700
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation

From: hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])
CC: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email]); mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com ([email]mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email]); gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])


Everyone -

OK.  I, too, vote for DIAS.

Time to move on.

Harvey

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:513618bd74]
Hi Harvey,
 
For me, I try hard and take pride in always getting my turns in and completing my games. "Abandoning" a game is not something I would be happy with, personally. I would be fine either with a DIAS, or the game being disbanded like it never happened, or if Charles' real-life situation enables a timely resolution of the game.
 
FWIW while certainly annoyed at the game I am not upset with Charles, per se: I'm sure it is a case of good intentions gone awry thanks to real-life. That said, I would like to move on.
 
Dirk
 
From: Harvey Morris [mailto:hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:49 AM
To: Jorge Saralegui
Cc: Dirk Knemeyer; Marc Ellinger; Nigel PHILLIPS; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email]); gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); Mikael Johansson; Mike Leprecaun

Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation





 
Everyone -

My two cents.

I have never resigned from a game, and have never gone absent.

As some of you know, a week or two ago I wrote Charles to say that I was on the verge of resigning from this game.  That apparently prompted him to find a replacement for Sweden.

I am absolutely puzzled (and pissed) by Charles' newest message.  This is a Winter Adjustment Phase.  What the heck is there to adjudicate?

Please, talk to me about the merits of DIAS versus mass resignation from the game.

Regards to all from an angry Harvey
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
I would officially vote Yes for a DIAS, even though it deprives Nigs of his shot at the crown of the HRE.  Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the greater good.
 

Jorge
 
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:
I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.
 

Dirk

 

 
On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:




I concur that I would like to have it be smoother.   (Even in my poor position!)
 
Marc.
 
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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Jorge England 214; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
Cc: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); Mikael Johansson; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); Marc Ellinger; Mike Leprecaun
Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation

 
I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.
I would like to get a move on though

 

Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
CC: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); AiSlattery(at)aol.com ([email]AiSlattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com ([email]mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com[/email]); mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])

To all,
 

Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the delays in this game.  How does everyone else feel about it?
 

Jorge

 
2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Hi Harvey,
 

What do you think?  This is starting to turn into a joke.

 

Jorge
2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])> [quote:513618bd74]
 
Hi guys,

 

I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so before too long.

 

Charles




 


 




 

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1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - charlesf   (Feb 06, 2010, 12:54 pm)

FWIW, I was annoyed at the manner of austria's departure, and discussed with Dirk and Harvey my concern sat that stage, and was persuaded to carry on.

Nigs, your annoyance is balanced by the annoyance of others at his gunboating.

My policy was clear on that count. In any case, it's one of those issues you'd rather not have come up. Naturally, I don't begrudge you being less enthralled about that step. Fair enough.

Charles

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1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - charlesf   (Feb 06, 2010, 12:46 pm)
Guys,

as it so happens, our replacement failed to submit orders. Despite my repeated warnings to him.

Such is the risk of taking on a newbie to the site.

Since I wanted to give him a chance to explain himself, I did not detail in my earlier note to you the reason for this delay. I was all set yesterday to get the adjucation out. Hoping for a last-minute arrival of Sweden's orders.

Believe me, this frustrates me as much as it does you.

I was hoping to have this game back on a smooth track. While I admittedly dragged my feet in getting a replacement, I don't see how I can be faulted here. I am committed to running this game smoothly to its conclusion. But if you guys want to end this in another way, that's your choice.

Charles

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1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - Nigs   (Feb 06, 2010, 12:38 pm)
FWIW, I was annoyed at the manner of austria's departure, and discussed with Dirk and Harvey my concern sat that stage, and was persuaded to carry on. From what I remember it seemed to me that Charles was imposing a style of play as a requirement on someone who was submitting moves, but not talking. I prefer conversations with other players, but don't see silence as areason for a player to be expelled. But I may be mis-remembering or misinterpreting. i am enjoying the actual play, and the variant and players. I'd happily try it again. I am reluctant to have the dias, because I'd love to see how the game might turn out, (will austria fall? will there be a mass stalemate in the centre?) but I wouldn't continue it with so many wishing to end it, so I wouldn't block the dias. I don't always understand Charles' messages, or share his reasoning

Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:09:24 -0700
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: hmtucaz(at)gmail.com
To: dirk(at)knemeyer.com
CC: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com; mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; charlesf(at)web.de; gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com; mrh(at)panix.com

Everyone -

OK. I, too, vote for DIAS.

Time to move on.

Harvey

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:


Hi Harvey,

For me, I try hard and take pride in always getting my turns in and completing my games. "Abandoning" a game is not something I would be happy with, personally. I would be fine either with a DIAS, or the game being disbanded like it never happened, or if Charles' real-life situation enables a timely resolution of the game.

FWIW while certainly annoyed at the game I am not upset with Charles, per se: I'm sure it is a case of good intentions gone awry thanks to real-life. That said, I would like to move on.

Dirk

From: Harvey Morris [mailto:hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:49 AM
To: Jorge Saralegui
Cc: Dirk Knemeyer; Marc Ellinger; Nigel PHILLIPS; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email]); gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); Mikael Johansson; Mike Leprecaun

Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation






Everyone -

My two cents.

I have never resigned from a game, and have never gone absent.

As some of you know, a week or two ago I wrote Charles to say that I was on the verge of resigning from this game. That apparently prompted him to find a replacement for Sweden.

I am absolutely puzzled (and pissed) by Charles' newest message. This is a Winter Adjustment Phase. What the heck is there to adjudicate?

Please, talk to me about the merits of DIAS versus mass resignation from the game.

Regards to all from an angry Harvey
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
I would officially vote Yes for a DIAS, even though it deprives Nigs of his shot at the crown of the HRE. Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the greater good.


Jorge

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:
I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.


Dirk




On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:




I concur that I would like to have it be smoother. (Even in my poor position!)

Marc.

Marc H. Ellinger, CPA
Attorney at Law
Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch, LC
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From: Nigel PHILLIPS [mailto:nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Jorge England 214; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
Cc: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); Mikael Johansson; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); Marc Ellinger; Mike Leprecaun
Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation


I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.
I would like to get a move on though



Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
CC: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); AiSlattery(at)aol.com ([email]AiSlattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com ([email]mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com[/email]); mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])

To all,


Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the delays in this game. How does everyone else feel about it?


Jorge


2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Hi Harvey,


What do you think? This is starting to turn into a joke.



Jorge
2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])> [quote:be71760581]

Hi guys,



I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so before too long.



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1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - hmtucaz   (Feb 06, 2010, 11:09 am)
Everyone -

OK.  I, too, vote for DIAS.

Time to move on.

Harvey

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:


Hi Harvey,
 
For me, I try hard and take pride in always getting my turns in and completing my games. "Abandoning" a game is not something I would be happy with, personally. I would be fine either with a DIAS, or the game being disbanded like it never happened, or if Charles' real-life situation enables a timely resolution of the game.
 
FWIW while certainly annoyed at the game I am not upset with Charles, per se: I'm sure it is a case of good intentions gone awry thanks to real-life. That said, I would like to move on.
 
Dirk
 
From: Harvey Morris [mailto:hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:49 AM
To: Jorge Saralegui
Cc: Dirk Knemeyer; Marc Ellinger; Nigel PHILLIPS; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email]); gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); Mikael Johansson; Mike Leprecaun

Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation




 
Everyone -

My two cents.

I have never resigned from a game, and have never gone absent.

As some of you know, a week or two ago I wrote Charles to say that I was on the verge of resigning from this game.  That apparently prompted him to find a replacement for Sweden.

I am absolutely puzzled (and pissed) by Charles' newest message.  This is a Winter Adjustment Phase.  What the heck is there to adjudicate?

Please, talk to me about the merits of DIAS versus mass resignation from the game.

Regards to all from an angry Harvey
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
I would officially vote Yes for a DIAS, even though it deprives Nigs of his shot at the crown of the HRE.  Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the greater good.
 

Jorge
 
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:
I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.
 

Dirk

 

 
On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:




I concur that I would like to have it be smoother.   (Even in my poor position!)
 
Marc.
 
Marc H. Ellinger, CPA
Attorney at Law
Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch, LC
308 East High Street, Suite 301
Jefferson City, Missouri  65101
(573) 634-2500
(573) 634-3358 (Facsimile)
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From: Nigel PHILLIPS [mailto:nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Jorge England 214; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
Cc: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); Mikael Johansson; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); Marc Ellinger; Mike Leprecaun
Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation

 
I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.
I would like to get a move on though

 

Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
CC: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); AiSlattery(at)aol.com ([email]AiSlattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com ([email]mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com[/email]); mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])

To all,
 

Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the delays in this game.  How does everyone else feel about it?
 

Jorge

 
2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Hi Harvey,
 

What do you think?  This is starting to turn into a joke.

 

Jorge
2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])> [quote:e60c5b0218]
 
Hi guys,

 

I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so before too long.

 

Charles




 


 




 

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1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - dknemeyer   (Feb 06, 2010, 11:00 am)
Hi Harvey,

For me, I try hard and take pride in always getting my turns in and completing my games. "Abandoning" a game is not something I would be happy with, personally. I would be fine either with a DIAS, or the game being disbanded like it never happened, or if Charles' real-life situation enables a timely resolution of the game.

FWIW while certainly annoyed at the game I am not upset with Charles, per se: I'm sure it is a case of good intentions gone awry thanks to real-life. That said, I would like to move on.

Dirk

From: Harvey Morris [mailto:hmtucaz(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:49 AM
To: Jorge Saralegui
Cc: Dirk Knemeyer; Marc Ellinger; Nigel PHILLIPS; charlesf(at)web.de; gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; Mikael Johansson; Mike Leprecaun
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation


Everyone -

My two cents.

I have never resigned from a game, and have never gone absent.

As some of you know, a week or two ago I wrote Charles to say that I was on the verge of resigning from this game. That apparently prompted him to find a replacement for Sweden.

I am absolutely puzzled (and pissed) by Charles' newest message. This is a Winter Adjustment Phase. What the heck is there to adjudicate?

Please, talk to me about the merits of DIAS versus mass resignation from the game.

Regards to all from an angry Harvey
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
I would officially vote Yes for a DIAS, even though it deprives Nigs of his shot at the crown of the HRE. Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the greater good.


Jorge

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:
I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.


Dirk




On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:




I concur that I would like to have it be smoother. (Even in my poor position!)

Marc.

Marc H. Ellinger, CPA
Attorney at Law
Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch, LC
308 East High Street, Suite 301
Jefferson City, Missouri 65101
(573) 634-2500
(573) 634-3358 (Facsimile)
The information transmitted in this e-mail message is intended only for the addressee and may contain CONFIDENTIAL and/or PRIVILEGED material. Any interception, review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is UNAUTHORIZED, prohibited by law and may subject such users to criminal or civil penalty. If you received this communication in error, please (1) contact the sender above; (2) advise Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch of such receipt; and (3) delete the communication completely from your computer or network system.
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From: Nigel PHILLIPS [mailto:nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Jorge England 214; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
Cc: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); Mikael Johansson; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); Marc Ellinger; Mike Leprecaun
Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation


I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.
I would like to get a move on though



Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
CC: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); AiSlattery(at)aol.com ([email]AiSlattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com ([email]mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com[/email]); mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])

To all,


Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the delays in this game. How does everyone else feel about it?


Jorge


2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Hi Harvey,


What do you think? This is starting to turn into a joke.



Jorge
2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])>



Hi guys,



I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so before too long.



Charles














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1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - txurce   (Feb 06, 2010, 10:59 am)
I agree with Mike's assessment.  There's no need for us to resign - why spoil so many unblemished track records?  It is within our rights as players to call for a DIAS.  This vote seems to have passed, assuming our brand-new, yet-to-order Swedish leader doesn't object.


Jorge

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Mike Hoffman <mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])> wrote:

I told Charles 2 weeks ago that I wouldn't mind calling the game, but
I'd also be willing to stick with it.  Whatever the "majority" voted
for.

Considering these last messages, it's clear that the majority is
voting for DIAS.

So I vote for DIAS as well.   If the vote isn't unanimous though, I'll
keep playing.

Mike
---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is
sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great




On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:83a83b9092]I would officially vote Yes for a DIAS, even though it deprives Nigs of his
shot at the crown of the HRE.  Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the
greater good.
Jorge

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:83a83b9092]
I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with
time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he
can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.
Dirk

On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:

I concur that I would like to have it be smoother.   (Even in my poor
position!)



Marc.



Marc H. Ellinger, CPA

Attorney at Law

Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch, LC

308 East High Street, Suite 301

Jefferson City, Missouri  65101

(573) 634-2500

(573) 634-3358 (Facsimile)

The information transmitted in this e-mail message is intended only for
the addressee and may contain CONFIDENTIAL and/or PRIVILEGED material. Any
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taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than
the intended recipient is UNAUTHORIZED, prohibited by law and may subject
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by you may be copied and held by various computers it passes through as it
goes from me to you or vice versa, (3) persons not participating in our
communication may intercept our communications by improperly accessing your
computer or my computer or even some computer unconnected to either of us
which the e-mail passed through. I am communicating to you via e-mail
because you have consented to receive communications via this medium. If you
change your mind and want future communications to be sent in a different
fashion, please let me know AT ONCE.

________________________________

From: Nigel PHILLIPS [mailto:nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Jorge England 214; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
Cc: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]);
aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); Mikael Johansson; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]);
Marc Ellinger; Mike Leprecaun
Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation



I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and
austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles
wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication
unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.

I would like to get a move on though



Nigs

________________________________

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
CC: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]);
AiSlattery(at)aol.com ([email]AiSlattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]);
nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com ([email]mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com[/email]);
mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])

To all,



Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the
delays in this game.  How does everyone else feel about it?



Jorge



2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>

Hi Harvey,



What do you think?  This is starting to turn into a joke.



Jorge

2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])>



Hi guys,



I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so
before too long.



Charles







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1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - offdisc   (Feb 06, 2010, 10:53 am)
Harvey,
I've never resigned from a game in my life. I've also never abandoned
a game, although I've missed a deadline or two. Smile

I will vote for a DIAS, but I will not participate in a "mass
resignation" just to prove a point to a GM. I may never play another
game of Charles', but if he really doesn't have time for the game,
*he* should resign as GM or call the game a DIAS.

My two cents...

Mike
---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is
sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great



On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Harvey Morris <hmtucaz(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Everyone -

My two cents.

I have never resigned from a game, and have never gone absent.

As some of you know, a week or two ago I wrote Charles to say that I was on
the verge of resigning from this game.  That apparently prompted him to find
a replacement for Sweden.

I am absolutely puzzled (and pissed) by Charles' newest message.  This is a
Winter Adjustment Phase.  What the heck is there to adjudicate?

Please, talk to me about the merits of DIAS versus mass resignation from the
game.

Regards to all from an angry Harvey

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
[quote:eb2e8dea35]
I would officially vote Yes for a DIAS, even though it deprives Nigs of
his shot at the crown of the HRE.  Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for
the greater good.
Jorge

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com> wrote:
[quote:eb2e8dea35]
I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with
time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he
can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.
Dirk

On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:

I concur that I would like to have it be smoother.   (Even in my poor
position!)



Marc.



Marc H. Ellinger, CPA

Attorney at Law

Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch, LC

308 East High Street, Suite 301

Jefferson City, Missouri  65101

(573) 634-2500

(573) 634-3358 (Facsimile)

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communication may intercept our communications by improperly accessing your
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which the e-mail passed through. I am communicating to you via e-mail
because you have consented to receive communications via this medium. If you
change your mind and want future communications to be sent in a different
fashion, please let me know AT ONCE.

________________________________

From: Nigel PHILLIPS [mailto:nephilli99(at)hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Jorge England 214; charlesf(at)web.de
Cc: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com;
aislattery(at)aol.com; dirk(at)knemeyer.com; Mikael Johansson; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com;
Marc Ellinger; Mike Leprecaun
Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation



I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and
austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles
wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication
unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.

I would like to get a move on though



Nigs

________________________________

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
To: charlesf(at)web.de
CC: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com;
AiSlattery(at)aol.com; dirk(at)knemeyer.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com;
nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com; mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com;
mrh(at)panix.com

To all,



Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the
delays in this game.  How does everyone else feel about it?



Jorge



2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>

Hi Harvey,



What do you think?  This is starting to turn into a joke.



Jorge

2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de>



Hi guys,



I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so
before too long.



Charles







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1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - offdisc   (Feb 06, 2010, 10:50 am)
I told Charles 2 weeks ago that I wouldn't mind calling the game, but
I'd also be willing to stick with it. Whatever the "majority" voted
for.

Considering these last messages, it's clear that the majority is
voting for DIAS.

So I vote for DIAS as well. If the vote isn't unanimous though, I'll
keep playing.

Mike
---------
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson
"Whenever some act of wondrous power must be performed, Michael is
sent" --- Pope Saint Gregory the Great



On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I would officially vote Yes for a DIAS, even though it deprives Nigs of his
shot at the crown of the HRE.  Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the
greater good.
Jorge

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com> wrote:
[quote:2cdf9a83a3]
I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with
time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he
can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.
Dirk

On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:

I concur that I would like to have it be smoother.   (Even in my poor
position!)



Marc.



Marc H. Ellinger, CPA

Attorney at Law

Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch, LC

308 East High Street, Suite 301

Jefferson City, Missouri  65101

(573) 634-2500

(573) 634-3358 (Facsimile)

The information transmitted in this e-mail message is intended only for
the addressee and may contain CONFIDENTIAL and/or PRIVILEGED material. Any
interception, review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or
taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than
the intended recipient is UNAUTHORIZED, prohibited by law and may subject
such users to criminal or civil penalty. If you received this communication
in error, please (1) contact the sender above; (2) advise Blitz, Bardgett &
Deutsch of such receipt; and (3) delete the communication completely from
your computer or network system.

PLEASE NOTE: The Missouri Bar Disciplinary Counsel requires all Missouri
lawyers to notify all recipients of e-mail that (1) e-mail communication is
not a secure method of communication, (2) any e-mail that is sent to you or
by you may be copied and held by various computers it passes through as it
goes from me to you or vice versa, (3) persons not participating in our
communication may intercept our communications by improperly accessing your
computer or my computer or even some computer unconnected to either of us
which the e-mail passed through. I am communicating to you via e-mail
because you have consented to receive communications via this medium. If you
change your mind and want future communications to be sent in a different
fashion, please let me know AT ONCE.

________________________________

From: Nigel PHILLIPS [mailto:nephilli99(at)hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Jorge England 214; charlesf(at)web.de
Cc: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com;
aislattery(at)aol.com; dirk(at)knemeyer.com; Mikael Johansson; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com;
Marc Ellinger; Mike Leprecaun
Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation



I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and
austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles
wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication
unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.

I would like to get a move on though



Nigs

________________________________

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com
To: charlesf(at)web.de
CC: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com;
AiSlattery(at)aol.com; dirk(at)knemeyer.com; m_don_j(at)hotmail.com;
nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com; mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com;
mrh(at)panix.com

To all,



Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the
delays in this game.  How does everyone else feel about it?



Jorge



2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com>

Hi Harvey,



What do you think?  This is starting to turn into a joke.



Jorge

2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de>



Hi guys,



I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so
before too long.



Charles







________________________________

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[Reply]

1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - hmtucaz   (Feb 06, 2010, 10:48 am)
Everyone -

My two cents.

I have never resigned from a game, and have never gone absent.

As some of you know, a week or two ago I wrote Charles to say that I was on the verge of resigning from this game.  That apparently prompted him to find a replacement for Sweden.

I am absolutely puzzled (and pissed) by Charles' newest message.  This is a Winter Adjustment Phase.  What the heck is there to adjudicate?

Please, talk to me about the merits of DIAS versus mass resignation from the game.

Regards to all from an angry Harvey

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

I would officially vote Yes for a DIAS, even though it deprives Nigs of his shot at the crown of the HRE.  Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the greater good.

Jorge


On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:51bee4d88c] I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.

Dirk




On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:

[quote:51bee4d88c]
I concur that I would like to have it be smoother.   (Even in my poor position!)
 
Marc.
 
Marc H. Ellinger, CPA
Attorney at Law
Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch, LC
308 East High Street, Suite 301
Jefferson City, Missouri  65101
(573) 634-2500
(573) 634-3358 (Facsimile)
The information transmitted in this e-mail message is intended only for the addressee and may contain CONFIDENTIAL and/or PRIVILEGED material. Any interception, review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is UNAUTHORIZED, prohibited by law and may subject such users to criminal or civil penalty. If you received this communication in error, please (1) contact the sender above; (2) advise Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch of such receipt; and (3) delete the communication completely from your computer or network system.
PLEASE NOTE: The Missouri Bar Disciplinary Counsel requires all Missouri lawyers to notify all recipients of e-mail that (1) e-mail communication is not a secure method of communication, (2) any e-mail that is sent to you or by you may be copied and held by various computers it passes through as it goes from me to you or vice versa, (3) persons not participating in our communication may intercept our communications by improperly accessing your computer or my computer or even some computer unconnected to either of us which the e-mail passed through. I am communicating to you via e-mail because you have consented to receive communications via this medium. If you change your mind and want future communications to be sent in a different fashion, please let me know AT ONCE.


From: Nigel PHILLIPS [mailto:nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Jorge England 214; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
Cc: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); Mikael Johansson; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); Marc Ellinger; Mike Leprecaun
Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation

 
I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.
I would like to get a move on though

 

Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
CC: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); AiSlattery(at)aol.com ([email]AiSlattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com ([email]mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com[/email]); mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])

To all,
 

Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the delays in this game.  How does everyone else feel about it?
 

Jorge

 
2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Hi Harvey,
 

What do you think?  This is starting to turn into a joke.

 

Jorge
2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])> [quote:51bee4d88c]
 
Hi guys,

 

I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so before too long.

 

Charles




 


 




 

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[Reply]

1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - txurce   (Feb 06, 2010, 10:21 am)
I would officially vote Yes for a DIAS, even though it deprives Nigs of his shot at the crown of the HRE.  Sometimes we have to make sacrifices for the greater good.

Jorge

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Dirk Knemeyer <dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email])> wrote:

I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.

Dirk




On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:

[quote:e77c5c4374]
I concur that I would like to have it be smoother.   (Even in my poor position!)
 
Marc.
 
Marc H. Ellinger, CPA
Attorney at Law
Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch, LC
308 East High Street, Suite 301
Jefferson City, Missouri  65101
(573) 634-2500
(573) 634-3358 (Facsimile)
The information transmitted in this e-mail message is intended only for the addressee and may contain CONFIDENTIAL and/or PRIVILEGED material. Any interception, review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is UNAUTHORIZED, prohibited by law and may subject such users to criminal or civil penalty. If you received this communication in error, please (1) contact the sender above; (2) advise Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch of such receipt; and (3) delete the communication completely from your computer or network system.
PLEASE NOTE: The Missouri Bar Disciplinary Counsel requires all Missouri lawyers to notify all recipients of e-mail that (1) e-mail communication is not a secure method of communication, (2) any e-mail that is sent to you or by you may be copied and held by various computers it passes through as it goes from me to you or vice versa, (3) persons not participating in our communication may intercept our communications by improperly accessing your computer or my computer or even some computer unconnected to either of us which the e-mail passed through. I am communicating to you via e-mail because you have consented to receive communications via this medium. If you change your mind and want future communications to be sent in a different fashion, please let me know AT ONCE.


From: Nigel PHILLIPS [mailto:nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email])]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Jorge England 214; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
Cc: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); aislattery(at)aol.com ([email]aislattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); Mikael Johansson; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); Marc Ellinger; Mike Leprecaun
Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation

 
I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.
I would like to get a move on though

 

Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
CC: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); AiSlattery(at)aol.com ([email]AiSlattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com ([email]mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com[/email]); mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])

To all,
 

Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the delays in this game.  How does everyone else feel about it?
 

Jorge

 
2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Hi Harvey,
 

What do you think?  This is starting to turn into a joke.

 

Jorge
2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])> [quote:e77c5c4374]
 
Hi guys,

 

I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so before too long.

 

Charles




 


 




 

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1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - ellingermc   (Feb 06, 2010, 10:20 am)
Ok by me.

Marc H. Ellinger, CPA
Attorney at Law
Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch, LC
308 East High Street, Suite 301
Jefferson City, Missouri  65101
(573) 634-2500
(573) 634-3358 (Facsimile)
The information transmitted in this e-mail message is intended only for the addressee and may contain CONFIDENTIAL and/or PRIVILEGED material. Any interception, review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is UNAUTHORIZED, prohibited by law and may subject such users to criminal or civil penalty. If you received this communication in error, please (1) contact the sender above; (2) advise Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch of such receipt; and (3) delete the communication completely from your computer or network system.
PLEASE NOTE: The Missouri Bar Disciplinary Counsel requires all Missouri lawyers to notify all recipients of e-mail that (1) e-mail communication is not a secure method of communication, (2) any e-mail that is sent to you or by you may be copied and held by various computers it passes through as it goes from me to you or vice versa, (3) persons not participating in our communication may intercept our communications by improperly accessing your computer or my computer or even some computer unconnected to either of us which the e-mail passed through. I am communicating to you via e-mail because you have consented to receive communications via this medium. If you change your mind and want future communications to be sent in a different fashion, please let me know AT ONCE.


From: Dirk Knemeyer [mailto:dirk(at)knemeyer.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:16 AM
To: Marc Ellinger
Cc: 'Nigel PHILLIPS'; 'Jorge England 214'; charlesf(at)web.de; gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com; dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com; aislattery(at)aol.com; 'Mikael Johansson'; hmtucaz(at)gmail.com; 'Mike Leprecaun'
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation


I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.


Dirk




On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:

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I concur that I would like to have it be smoother.   (Even in my poor position!)

Marc.

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Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation


I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.
I would like to get a move on though



Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
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To all,


Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the delays in this game. How does everyone else feel about it?


Jorge


2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Hi Harvey,


What do you think? This is starting to turn into a joke.



Jorge
2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])>



Hi guys,



I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so before too long.



Charles














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1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation - dknemeyer   (Feb 06, 2010, 10:15 am)
I agree with the general sentiment. It appears Charles is struggling with time a little bit. I formally propose and vote yes for a DIAS. This way he can be free of the adjudication responsibility and we can find other games.

Dirk



On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Marc Ellinger wrote:

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I concur that I would like to have it be smoother. (Even in my poor position!)

Marc.

Marc H. Ellinger, CPA
Attorney at Law
Blitz, Bardgett & Deutsch, LC
308 East High Street, Suite 301
Jefferson City, Missouri 65101
(573) 634-2500
(573) 634-3358 (Facsimile)
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From: Nigel PHILLIPS [mailto:nephilli99(at)hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Jorge England 214; charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
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Subject: RE: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation


I do get confused by some of Charles' more enigmatic messages, and austria's leaving the game seemed to be because he wasn't playing as Charles wanted him too, in a communicative manner. I find non-communication unsocial, but not a reason for leaving a game by itself.
I would like to get a move on though



Nigs

Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 07:39:47 -0800
Subject: Re: 1648 091010: Upcoming Adjucation
From: jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])
To: charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])
CC: gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com ([email]gabriele.parachini(at)gmail.com[/email]); dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]dc279(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email]); AiSlattery(at)aol.com ([email]AiSlattery(at)aol.com[/email]); dirk(at)knemeyer.com ([email]dirk(at)knemeyer.com[/email]); m_don_j(at)hotmail.com ([email]m_don_j(at)hotmail.com[/email]); nephilli99(at)hotmail.com ([email]nephilli99(at)hotmail.com[/email]); hmtucaz(at)gmail.com ([email]hmtucaz(at)gmail.com[/email]); mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com ([email]mellinger(at)blitzbardgett.com[/email]); mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])

To all,


Harvey and I have already discussed our own dissatisfaction with the delays in this game. How does everyone else feel about it?


Jorge


2010/2/6 Jorge Saralegui <jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com ([email]jmsaralegui(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Hi Harvey,


What do you think? This is starting to turn into a joke.



Jorge
2010/2/6 Charles Féaux de la Croix <charlesf(at)web.de ([email]charlesf(at)web.de[/email])> [quote:c9645076a3]

Hi guys,



I shall not be adjucating right now. I hope that I shall be able to do so before too long.



Charles














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