Hi everyone,


 


First of all let me say that I'm very pleased that all is OK with Grant and his family. It's important to remember that Diplomacy is only a game, and that there are some things far more important than this.


 


Even though I feel sympathy for Grant and his position, and I'm sure that Grant is being honest in saying he sent me moves before looking at the adjudication, I'm unwilling to readjudicate the move set - let me try to explain why.


 


I received Grant's moves at 0010GMT Monday 11 July, four hours ten minutes after the deadline, and three hours 58 minutes after I had adjudicated the moves for the turn. One way of looking at the deadline is as the earliest time that I can make the adjudication for the turn. Whilst I'm happy to accept moves any time up to the adjudication, once the deadline has passed you should all assume that the adjudication can be made any time after this.


 


As Gerry said, it's a good idea to get some preliminary moves to me well before the deadline even if you think you might subsequently change them. Also, I am more than happy to delay the deadline for any of you, should real life get in the way of finalising your moves.


 


Given the circumstances, and the fact that I believe the NMR to be in extenuating circumstances, I think the fairest way for me to proceed is to refuse the request to include Grant's moves this time, but to ignore the NMR - i.e. not record the NMR as a black mark against Grant's profile, nor to hold strictly to the rule saying 'two consecutive NMRs and you're out the game' (as happened to the original Russia and Turkey in this game). I hope you can all understand the position I'm in here.


 


Please submit your builds and disbands by the deadline 2000GMT tonight (Monday 11 July), the deadline for Spring 1906 is Sunday 17 July 2000GMT.


 


Best wishes to all, particularly Grant and family,


 


 


Jerome











From: Gerry Bayer <starhop8(at)gmail.com>
To: Grant Szuveges <grantszuveges(at)gmail.com>
Cc: Brian Schoner <bschoner(at)gmail.com>; Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; "raretek75(at)hotmail.com" <raretek75(at)hotmail.com>; "archer.smith(at)zoho.com" <archer.smith(at)zoho.com>; "Spinozas(at)gmx.net" <Spinozas(at)gmx.net>; "zyxw59(at)gmail.com" <zyxw59(at)gmail.com>; dc384 gamepage <dc384(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Monday, 11
July 2011, 4:57
Subject: Re: dc384 Autumn 05 adjudication



Good to hear all is well with your kids Grant

This is Jerome's call and Grant did miss the deadline. Without trying to sound like a nag that's why we try and send provisional orders early ( something I don't always practice ! )

Given the circumstances though I would agree to let the orders  stand give Brian's qualifier.

Gerry



On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Grant Szuveges <grantszuveges(at)gmail.com> wrote:




The time that emails are sent is displayed on emails through gmail (Im assuming it is the same with hotmail, yahoo etc). That should be some sort of evidence of the order this happened in. Im not sure if there is a way to detect the time that somebody opened an email that you sent to them - if so, then there is proof.


 


The children are ok now - thanks for asking Brian.


 


Cheers, Grant











On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Brian Schoner <bschoner(at)gmail.com> wrote:






I'm willing to accept the orders submitted IF they were received by Jerome before the adjudication was mailed out. If not, as much as I'd like to let it slide, there's no way to know if the orders were genuinely written before seeing the results. 






Hope everything is okay with your children, Grant!








On Jul 10, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Grant Szuveges <grantszuveges(at)gmail.com> wrote:




















Hi everyone


 


Unfortunately I missed the deadline by a few hours due to an emergency with my children. Ive sent moves to Jerome (without looking at the moves of other players). If ALL other players are happy to accept my moves would it be possible to submit them? (obviously I wont say what they are because this could affect decisions - I have sent them to Jerome though). That said, I understand if players dont want to accept them - Im still playing the game.


 


Cheers, Grant




On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com> wrote:








"French army invades Norway - 'There's just something about those fjords', French General quoted as saying!"


 


"Multiple cat sightings in Constantinople, Tunis and Trieste - Italian armed forces scramble to investigate!"


 


"Premature announcement of 'Free vodka for all Russian soldiers in Moscow' causes head-on collision!"


 


 


Bonsoir mes amis,


 


Your adjudication for Autumn 1905 is given below. Given that the only place that Turkey's Constantinople fleet can retreat to is the Black Sea, I've auto-adjudicated that retreat. Please get your builds and disbands to me by 2000GMT tomorrow evening (Monday 11 July).


 


 


Autumn 1905 adjudication:


 


Austria:
A Bohemia Supports A Munich
A Budapest Hold
F Eastern Mediterranean Supports A Smyrna
A Tyrolia Supports A Venice - Piedmont (*Void*)
A Vienna Supports A Tyrolia


 


France:
A Burgundy - Munich (*Fails*)
A Edinburgh Hold
F English Channel Convoys A Picardy - Norway
A Gascony - Burgundy (*Fails*)
F Holland Supports A Munich - Kiel (*Void*)
F North Sea Convoys A Picardy - Norway
F Norwegian Sea Supports A Picardy - Norway
A Picardy - Norway
A Piedmont - Tyrolia (*Fails*)
A Ruhr Supports A Burgundy - Munich


 


Germany:
A Livonia, no move received
A Munich, no move received
A Sweden, no move received


 


Italy:
F Aegean Sea Supports F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople
F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
A Serbia Supports A Venice - Trieste
A Smyrna Supports F Bulgaria(sc) - Constantinople (*Cut*)
A Venice - Trieste


 


Russia:
F Baltic Sea Supports A Kiel - Denmark
F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec)
A Kiel - Denmark
F Norway - St Petersburg(nc)
A Rumania Supports F Black Sea - Bulgaria(ec)
A Ukraine - Moscow (*Bounce*)
A Warsaw - Moscow (*Bounce*)


 


Turkey:
A Ankara - Smyrna (*Fails*)
F Constantinople Supports A Ankara - Smyrna (*Dislodged*)



Turkey's Fleet Constantinople is auto-retreated to Black Sea.


 


Builds/disbands:


 


Austria:   Supp  2 Unit  5 Remove  3
England:   Supp  0 Unit  0 Build  0
France:    Supp 11 Unit 10 Build  1
Germany:   Supp  3 Unit  3 Build  0
Italy:     Supp  9 Unit  6 Build  3
Russia:    Supp  8 Unit  7 Build  1
Turkey:    Supp  1 Unit  2 Remove  1



Please get your builds and disbands to me by 2000GMT tomorrow evening (Monday 11 July).


 


Salut mes braves!


 


Jerome


 


 











From: Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>
To: Jerome Payne <jerome777(at)ymail.com>; "raretek75(at)hotmail.com" <raretek75(at)hotmail.com>; "bschoner(at)gmail.com" <bschoner(at)gmail.com>; "archer.smith(at)zoho.com" <archer.smith(at)zoho.com>; "starhop8(at)gmail.com" <starhop8(at)gmail.com>; "Spinozas(at)gmx.net" <Spinozas(at)gmx.net>; "grantszuveges(at)gmail.com" <grantszuveges(at)gmail.com>; "zyxw59(at)gmail.com" <zyxw59(at)gmail.com>
Cc: dc384 gamepage <dc384(at)diplomaticcorp.com>
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011, 17:33
Subject: Re: dc384 Autumn 05 reminder







 










Hello everyone,


 


The deadline for Autumn 1905 is three and a half hours away, at 2000GMT this evening (Sunday 10 July). Please ensure you've sent me your moves by then.


 


Thanks,


 


 


Jerome