Hugh,Just to clarify only a few GMs ever allow a vote count. I, as a GM, do not because I consider them secret and I have witnessed using voting as a part of the game in the opposite manner. WB rules preclude vote counts but beyond that it is generally a GM to GM decision.
Just pointless counter pointing.
G
On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:02 PM, Hugh Polley <hapolley(at)yahoo.ca> wrote:
Well This is Crappie! In traditional vote GM would reveal how many yes/No voteswere received for each proposal but not a person's vote. This made forcinga vote a useful tool in some situations! 2. Votes are secret, and the GM does not reveal how people voted. The GM simply announces whether the EGP has been successful, or has failed. If successful, the moves for that turn are NOT adjudicated, and the game ends at that point. If fail, then the moves ARE adjudicated (as in this turn above). With Warm Regards!Hugh - hapolley(at)yahoo.ca
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Subject: dc444 autumn 05 adjudication
Hi everyone,
Apologies for the slightly late adjudication, I've been out wining and dining my better half tonight.
The draw proposal failed, so here are the moves for Autumn 05:
Austria:
F Aegean Sea Convoys A Greece - Constantinople
F Albania - Ionian Sea
A Budapest - Vienna
A Bulgaria Supports A Greece - Constantinople
A Greece - Constantinople
A Kiel - Munich (*Fails*)
A Silesia Supports A Kiel
- Munich
England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
F Skagerrak - Norway
France:
A Burgundy - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports A Spain
A Munich - Kiel (*Fails*)
F North Africa - Tunis (*Bounce*)
A Spain Supports A Burgundy - Marseilles
F Yorkshire - Edinburgh
Germany:
F Baltic Sea - Berlin (*Fails*)
F Holland Supports A Munich
- Kiel
A Liverpool Supports F Yorkshire - Edinburgh
F North Sea - Denmark
A Norway - Sweden
A Ruhr - Munich (*Fails*)
Italy:
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Piedmont - Marseilles
A Marseilles - Burgundy (*Fails*)
A Piedmont - Marseilles (*Bounce*)
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis (*Bounce*)
Russia:
F Armenia - Ankara
A Berlin Supports A Kiel - Munich (*Cut*)
F Black Sea Supports F Armenia - Ankara
F St Petersburg(nc) Supports F Norwegian Sea - Norway (*Void*)
A Warsaw - Prussia
Turkey:
F Ankara, no move received (*Disbanded*)
A Constantinople, no move received (*Disbanded*)
A Smyrna, no move received
No retreats are necessary, so we have the following adjustments:
Austria: Supp 8 Unit 7 Build 1
England: Supp 1 Unit 3 Remove 2
France: Supp 7 Unit 6 Build
1
Germany: Supp 5 Unit 6 Remove 1
Italy: Supp 5 Unit 4 Build 1
Russia: Supp 7 Unit 5 Build 2
Turkey: Supp 1 Unit 1 Build 0
Please let me have your adjustments by 2100GMT tomorrow, Friday 15 February.
Incidentally, there seemed to be some confusion for some of you with the way in which voting for end-game-proposals (EGPs) works. Here's some key facts:
1. Votes are lodged with orders for either a Spring or Autumn turn.
2. Votes are secret, and the GM does not reveal how people voted. The GM simply announces whether the EGP has been successful, or has failed. If successful, the moves for that turn are NOT adjudicated, and the game ends at that point. If fail, then the moves ARE adjudicated (as in this turn above).
3. All players with at least one supply centre for the turn
are entitled to vote. To pass, the EGP requires active YES votes from ALL players entitled to vote. Any absentions, or No votes, cause the EGP to fail.
4. There can be multiple EGPs to vote on in a single turn. The players vote separately for each. The EGPs are decided in order of greatest inclusivity; e.g. if in the same turn, both a vote for a 4-way draw and a vote for a 3-way draw are successful, then the 4-way draw takes precedence (as it is the most inclusive).
5. I will register the first vote you make, and then this stays as your vote until you actively change it. If in version 1 of your Spring orders you include a 'Yes' vote, I will assume you are voting yes, even if you enter version 2 of your orders with no mention of a vote. I will not consider you to be abstaining unless in version 2 of your orders you actively state that you are changing your vote to an abstention, or to a 'No' vote.
I think that's it, if any of you would
like further info about how voting works then ask me and I'll help you out.
Best,
Jerome