Congrats to the Sultan.
I also felt some frustration in this game on a bunch of levels. This was my first DIP game in probably 15 years, and I didn't make enough time to do it right. I intermittently had some travel and then some computer issues that just complicated my own poorness in staying on top of communications, so to those who I did a disservice to on staying in touch, my apologies.
My perspective on the play in my area of the boards was as follows......
The E/F/G situation really didn't get sorted out quickly enough to benefit any of us, and I guess that fault lies on all of our parts. When the R/T was evident it should have motivated us to figure out a different path perhaps. David did a great job with regular and open comms and out of all my neighbors, he was the one I was most open with in return, even though I was staring at the Steamroller. I was optimistic that maybe he'd go towards Jerome first, but he buried his units deep into German territory right around the time that Jerome knifed him in return.
David and Nathan made offers to me that I acknowledge I should have listened to more, but hanging around as a 1SC power just for survival didn't seem right. I stayed allied with Greg (who I love the description of mercurial for by the way), and held out some hope that I could get my home centers back and actually use armies to push against Turkey at some point. A lot of what Nathan perceived to be repeated intrusions by Greg were willingly agreed to by me to keep E/G at pace with France's attacks. For my approach to work, David probably needed to pull a Russian unit away from my area, though, and that never happened. In the end when Greg was still supporting Turkey I knew my decisions were not going to pan out.
Finally, thanks Hamish for volunteering to GM.
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:27:17 -0700
From: ndeily(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: dc444 Turkey EOG statement
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Folks, I'll keep it short and sweet: This was a very frustrating game. Hats off to Greg, who had an almost mystical ability to influence Germany and who was tactically astute enough to expand across a difficult frontier, and also to Jerome for a well-executed solo (which could and should have been given to him many turns ago, saving us all the trouble, I suppose he wanted as many points as possible?) I found I couldn't be an effective force on three fronts (though I did fine with two), and that was my undoing. I take some pride in being in two English centers at the end of the game. Things went very slowly for me because of tensions with Greg, and by the time Russia was
fully engaged, Turkey had expanded too far and fast for us to really stop him. I'll admit that it seemed to me Greg was primarily interested in helping Jerome win the game as opposed to winning or sharing a win himself. It may be that I should have trusted Greg more, but his play was mercurial at best, and he was pretty demanding and (I thought) unreasonable in wanting me to leave myself completely open to him in order to counter Turkey - so I take my share of responsibility there. I didn't understand Andrew's play at all, but I suppose that things could have worked better for him if R/T was not so solid. My style is to find an ally and commit, and I didn't have a willing partner in Germany (very aligned to England), England (at all, it seems) or Russia (until much later on - David and I did collaborate a bit, but Germany proved intractable despite several attempts - I don't know how after
losing as many centers as he did to England and as many offers as we made him, this persisted - maybe we weren't persuasive enough. Perhaps I'll see some of you in Round Two. Good luck all. N
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Subject: RE: dc444 Turkey EOG statement
Congrats Jerome, very impressive and I did pay a bit of attention to the later game despite my early exit.
Thank for the complement, I am not sure it is so much earned my tactical game is way ahead of my diplomatic game, so I suffer quite a bit in this winter tournament.
Still one has to expect this as Austria, sometimes you just get clobbered and if the russian is clever enough to order Gal S Ser - Bud (which I did consider, too briefly clearly) then the pain is over even faster, Didn't do Russia much good in the long run...
By the way Mike, Austria is looking very familiar to me in the winter tournament
And Hamish you did a great job GMing, even with the time diff across the pond.
On to round two.
Charlie
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:05:20 +0000
Subject: dc444 Turkey EOG statement
From: jeromerpayne(at)gmail.com
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Hi everyone,
Wow! My first ever solo at the diplomaticcorp website, and my second ever solo in my Diplomacy playing career! It seems to have taken me a very long time to achieve, and I'm rather proud of achieving this solo against six very good players.
I would like to say, 'Thank you,' to all six of my opponents for playing in this game with me, and for making this game an enjoyably yet rather challenging one. Thank you also to Hamish for doing an excellent job in GMing the game, I am a GM myself and I know that the task of being GM is largely a thankless task. Without GMs there would be no game for us to play, and I want to pass on my thanks and respect for giving up your time to help us players.
So onto my view of the game. Diplomacy was very slow and far-between before the Spring 1901 moves, certainly compared to other games I've played. Maybe we all had New-Year hangovers, or possibly because I was engaged at that point with three other games, I didn't really have the time to chase other players to get back to me on the messages I'd sent them, so I concentrated on discussions with the one player that was in regular contact with me - David (Russia). David and I started off this game with a firm alliance, and plans to try to achieve a two-way RT draw. Andrew (Italy) also made a brief attempt to form an alliance with me, but his request that I not build any fleets had my alarm bells ringing as to exactly how committed he would ever be to peace with me, and so I chose to go along the Russian route.
The RT went well in the first few game years, and I'm particularly pleased and proud at the way we nailed Austria to the wall together very early on in the game. I know that Charlie (Austria) is a very strong player indeed, having suffered at his hands in previous games, and I also know that no Turkey ever does well in a game of Diplomacy if Austria is having an easy time of it. So, there was no alternative, Austria had to go, and we dispatched him together with aplomb.
Once Charlie was out of the way, I begun to make some headway against Italy, aided by an unfortunately timed NMR from Andrew allowing me to grab TYS in 1904. David threw all of his force onto his German front, and succeeded wonderfully in crippling Michael (Germany) whilst also throwing himself off-balance. This coupled with the seemingly insatiable rise of Nathan (France) convinced me that if there was ever going to be a time to break ranks with Russia and make a play for personal glory, this was it.
Matters were helped somewhat by the seemingly personal emnity between Nathan and Greg (England), meaning that I was pushing at an open door in convincing Greg to share ideas for attacking France and Russia with me. We agreed to pursue the best possible result open to the two of us whilst helping one another out. Greg wanted a two-way draw with me, and had my progress been slower in the Balkans, then that might well have been a possible outcome for us. Still, we play this game to win. Next time Greg, I'm sure I'll be the one asking you to consider a two-way with me...
The vital thing from my point of view was to keep France distracted in his vendetta against England and keep him from building or moving fleets to the Mediterranean so as to prop Italy up, or worse, so as to try to grab some of the Italian spoils for himself. What I needed to do was to get to GoL/WMS as soon as I possibly could, and although he had diligently blocked me well up to that point, in an unlucky (for him) 50-50 coin-flip move Italy failed to stop me taking Tun in Spring 05. The build was nice, the disband to be suffered by Italy even nicer - but the access to GoL that I gained from my retreat was the ultimate prize, and move to GoL I promptly did. That for me was the champagne moment in this game - I then knew that at the least, I would share in a draw from this game.
I'm still surprised that France agreed to bounce GoL - Mar with Spa - Mar with me in Autumn 05, and even more surprised that France did not see the value of the move I made in ordering GoL to hold, thus having him block Mar for his build. Nathan accused me there of making a pointless stab upon him for no value - I didn't think it wise at the time to point out exactly how valuable that stab actually was for me, so I let Nathan continue thinking that my stab was pointless. Nathan built a fleet in Bre, and at first I thought that the MAO fleet was going to enter the Med and challenge me, but a bit of cunning diplomacy aimed at Nathan and Greg helped in keeping France's eyes turned northwards, and the Med remained mine.
From here on in I needed a bit of good luck and a bit of fancy footwork, both of which I got, to slowly grind away a position in the Balkans, defending parts of the front whilst attacking others and also trying to whittle away at Italy's centres to fuel my bid for the solo. Greg's distracting of Russia to the north was immensely helpful, as was Nathan's reluctance to enter the Med. Despite all sorts of fanciful draws being proposed by others, I grew more and more confident of getting a positive result in this game, and so it ultimately proved.
The last set of orders ensured I finished the game with exactly 18 centres, whilst
leaving the other survivors with England as a clear second place, and
Italy with two centres. There's no point in soloing with more than 18
centres with the tournament scoring system as it is, since 18 is the
maximum number of 0.1 points you can get for your centre count (giving a
maximum of 21.8 points for the solo). I could have soloed with 20 or 21 centres if I had chosen to, but that would have involved damaging my ally Greg's chances of
coming second in this game, and in finishing as far up the ladder as
possible in the tournament after the second round. And back at the start
of 1909 Italy approached me offering to do my bidding if I would let him live. I promised Andrew a survival if he
ordered as I asked him to, which he then faithfully did for the next few
turns (hence his retreat to Mar last winter for example). I'm very pleased that David also managed to survive the game, his excellent play early on in the game deserves it.
Overall then a good game for me which (perhaps unsurprisingly) I enjoyed very much. I'd like to wish you all the best of luck in your second round games for the Blitz tournament, and also say that I look forwards to crossing swords with you all again sometime soon. I'm sure any of you would beat the pants off of me if we do...
Best,
Sultan Jerome
