Hey Garry,
I wanted to file an appeal about my revised
disbands not being accepted at the deadline for my second round Blitz game.

I dunno how much (if any) ground I have to stand on, or even if it will really benefit me as far game play, but in addition to this email string between myself and Michael, I'm going to forward you the adjudication we got, and my submission of revised orders.

What you'll see is that I sent them before the deadline, although it seems they were received after the adjudication. It also seems to me that the adjudication was put out before the deadline actually passed. Dunno if that make any difference, but as I see it, the conflict arises with the rules about results only coming out after the deadline & orders being accepted up until results are published. My email and the results publication seem to have passed each other in the ether, but since the results were published early, I don't know if that means I have a case. I guess I'd just like your
opinion!

Thanks for looking it over!Matt
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Matt O'Donnell <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>
To: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: dc452, winter 1905, English revised disbands

Uh, when you put like that, yeah, I guess that's what I was asking, lol.
Thanks!Matt

From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
To: Matt O'Donnell <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: dc452, winter 1905, English revised disbands

What grounds do I think you should cite to defeat my own position? 

The rule is on the WB page... it reads along the lines of (from memory)... moves will be accepted up till the deadline, or after the deadline but up until a GM starts to adjudicate.  Since I started adjudicating this even before the dl
to get it out right on time, no revisions received after the dl would have been accepted.

It's not a big deal, tho I'm pretty sure he wouldn't overturn
it.  We don't overturn unless there's a clear reason to do so.  Any vagueness at all and we stand by the GM adjudication.

________________________________

From: Matt O'Donnell [mailto:gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Fri 5/3/2013 3:55 PM
To: Michael Sims
Subject: Re: dc452, winter 1905, English revised disbands


Well, yeah, and that's the benefit of prelims & confirmations. Anyone could say they sent in orders before the deadline/adjudication and the email just happened to be slow.

I guess it can't hurt to appeal to Garry. I think I'm playing with him in another game. That won't be a big deal right? Is this his email: garry b <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com> ?


What kind of grounds
do you think I should cite? My email actually says the I
received the results at 3:58pm. Of course, I'm sure most computers/email servers differ by a couple minutes fast or slow. Should I forward him this string of emails?

Thanks so much Michael!
Matt


________________________________

From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
To: Matt O'Donnell <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: dc452, winter 1905, English revised disbands


Oh I know, I totally believe you... but, flirting w the deadline can lead to this.  Even if you sent it at 2:40 and the mail gets delayed in transit 25 min (it happens) then it would reach me at 3:05 and be past deadline.  Even then I would accept it still unless I
already sent out the results between 3 and
3:05...


________________________________

From: Matt O'Donnell [mailto:gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Fri 5/3/2013 3:16 PM
To: Michael Sims
Subject: Re: dc452, winter 1905, English revised disbands


For what it's worth, I sent the revision before the adjudication showed up on my end...

________________________________

From: Matt O'Donnell <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>
To: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>; Me <matthew.odonnell1982(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: dc452, winter 1905, English revised disbands


Ah, hmp.
I pretty much sent it at the last second there I guess. And you're the final authority, so i guess there's no appealing...


________________________________

From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
To: Matt O'Donnell <gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com>; Me <matthew.odonnell1982(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: dc452, winter 1905, English revised disbands


This received at 3:01 pm -- moments after results were sent!    If it was at 2:59 I'd have taken it no questions asked...


________________________________

From: Matt O'Donnell [mailto:gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Fri 5/3/2013 3:01 PM
To: Michael Sims; Michael Penner; Me
Cc: orders
Subject: Re: dc452, winter 1905, English revised disbands


Remove F Liverpool
Remove F North Atlantic Ocean


Thanks!
Matt