From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Guns, Germs and Steel 1264 / DC110 - Fall 1879 - Till the Fat Lady Sings...
To: sforzapaolo(at)yahoo.com
Cc: "Cat23 1200 List" <Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com>, "dc110" <DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com>, "Rob Ackerley" <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca>, "David E Watson" <dipknight(at)comcast.net>, "Jerry Todd" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org>, "Jim Atkins" <savwa4(at)comcast.net>, "Lee Taylor" <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk>, "Mike Hoffman" <mrh(at)panix.com>, "Randolph" <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com>, "Rob Bristol" <rBristol(at)cargojet.com>, "Rob Bristol" <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca>, "Rudi Van Hal" <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl>, "Rupert Armstrong" <writetorupert(at)gmail.com>, "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com>, "Suzanne Castagne" <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr>, "Ted Morley" <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com>, "Ted Morley" <Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov>
Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 12:43 AM

In clarification.
The pertinent part of my HRs is Section IX Paragraph (2) - which reads in part:

If, after a period of 4 game years, no Supply Centers have changed ownership, the GM reserves the right, after a warning is given, to declare a draw including all survivors...


The remainder of that paragraph is void in this instance, as I will enforce a DIAS if 4 game years elapse without centers changing hands.


Concerning the variant rules - unless any player has objection we will allow the optional rule of ending the game on Spring 1901. If this occurs, the game result will also be a DIAS.


Trout




On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Paolo Sforza <sforzapaolo(at)yahoo.com ([email]sforzapaolo(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:6571855a03]
Hi Trout,

Just so we all know where we are then I formally ask the question.

This game can finish as a solo on 70 SCs - we all know that. No problem. It can also end as an n-way DRAW if such a proposal is unanimously passed. Again, no problem. All clear as crystal. However, as we could be heading towards game end, sooner rather than later, then exactly what criteria need to met and what duration do these criteria need to in place for you to call a DIAS? Is there an objective set of criteria for the DIAS that we play towards? There is an optional rule (is it in force?) that says '...the game will also end on Spring 1901 should no player possess the required number of supply centers'. The variant optional rule doesn't say what the result will be at game end. Just that the game will end. Is this also a DIAS?

Cheers and thanks,

Paolo.

--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

From: Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>
Subject: Re: Guns, Germs and Steel 1264 / DC110 - Fall 1879 - Till the Fat Lady Sings...
To: sforzapaolo(at)yahoo.com ([email]sforzapaolo(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Cc: "Cat23 1200 List" <Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com ([email]Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com[/email])>, "dc110" <DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>, "Rob Ackerley" <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>, "David E Watson" <dipknight(at)comcast.net ([email]dipknight(at)comcast.net[/email])>, "Jerry Todd" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email])>, "Jim Atkins" <savwa4(at)comcast.net ([email]savwa4(at)comcast.net[/email])>, "Lee Taylor" <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email])>, "Mike Hoffman" <mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])>, "Randolph" <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com ([email]ruffhaus8(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Rob Bristol" <rBristol(at)cargojet.com ([email]rBristol(at)cargojet.com[/email])>, "Rob Bristol" <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca ([email]rbristol(at)cogeco.ca[/email])>, "Rudi Van Hal" <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl ([email]rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl[/email])>, "Rupert Armstrong" <writetorupert(at)gmail.com ([email]writetorupert(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Suzanne Castagne" <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr ([email]sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr[/email])>, "Ted Morley" <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com ([email]ee_morley(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Ted Morley" <Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov ([email]Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov[/email])>
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 3:52 PM

For the record.
Any players that do not wish to participate in this game are not held hostage to it. If you wish to abandon this game, please just let me know and I will find a replacement to finish the game off.
It will be labelled a game abandon, however, on the DC club stats. There is nothing I can do about that.
If any player has issues with my House Rules or my GMing style, I will be very happy to entertain your personal grievances in private.
Cheers!
Trout

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Paolo Sforza <sforzapaolo(at)yahoo.com ([email]sforzapaolo(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:6571855a03]
Hi guys,

I think I put in this 6-way for last turn, but just in case it is someone else's 6-way proposal, I'd better vote. YES, to the 6-way (China, France, Holland, Japan, Russia, USA) DRAW.

Everyone knows the stalemate line, so as long as it is maintained I shall be putting in this proposal every turn and voting down any other proposition. My family is very long lived so I should see the end. Assuming the House Rules are followed then this game should be over in 4 (L-O-N-G) game year's time when the GM calls a DIAS. I have to mention this now because I don't want this monster to go on a moment longer than necessary. If ANYONE has problems (I absolutely don't) with Steve sharing in this DIAS - so effectively making this a 7-way DRAW then they'd better call for his elimination NOW as this will be an SC change and so the 4-game year clock won't start ticking until after this elimination. If Rupert eliminates Steve in Spring and Rudi keeps voting down the 6-way then the game should end just after Spring 1883 - I make that 3 months (late January) based on how slowly this monstrosity has lurched forward so far (GAWD SAVE US!)

The House Rules say (God forbid we ever actually follow the House Rules, of course) that the movement turns could be a minimum of 2 days duration. If Trout would reduce to this duration AND/OR remove his prohibition on perpetual orders then we could get this nonsense over and done with in a couple of weeks (still far too long in my book).

Like I said, I think, once before. This is game is about as exciting as watching anti-climb paint dry. This is supposed to be a 'short' game as it only requires 70 SCs for a SOLO. Even that fudge can't make this enjoyable. Who the hell invents this crappy huge games, riddled with stalemate lines? Rhetorical question - I DON'T want to know anything more about Imperial2,

Just thought! If packrat is right and REing is the same as FWDing - I might be lucky enough to be replaced! Cor, there IS light at the end of the tunnel.

Cheers to all,

Paolo.





--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])> wrote:

From: Rob Ackerley <rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca ([email]rob_ackerley(at)yahoo.ca[/email])>
Subject: Re: Guns, Germs and Steel 1264 / DC110 - Fall 1879 - Till the Fat Lady Sings...
To: "Former Trout" <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Cat23 1200 List" <Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com ([email]Cat23-1200(at)yahoogroups.com[/email])>, "dc110" <DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com ([email]DC110(at)diplomaticcorp.com[/email])>
Cc: "David E Watson" <dipknight(at)comcast.net ([email]dipknight(at)comcast.net[/email])>, "Jerry Todd" <sgttodd(at)mainecav.org ([email]sgttodd(at)mainecav.org[/email])>, "Jim Atkins" <savwa4(at)comcast.net ([email]savwa4(at)comcast.net[/email])>, "Lee Taylor" <leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk ([email]leewarrentaylor(at)yahoo.co.uk[/email])>, "Mike Hoffman" <mrh(at)panix.com ([email]mrh(at)panix.com[/email])>, "Paolo Sforza" <sforzapaolo(at)yahoo.com ([email]sforzapaolo(at)yahoo.com[/email])>, "Randolph" <ruffhaus8(at)aol.com ([email]ruffhaus8(at)aol.com[/email])>, "Rob Bristol" <rBristol(at)cargojet.com ([email]rBristol(at)cargojet.com[/email])>, "Rob Bristol" <rbristol(at)cogeco.ca ([email]rbristol(at)cogeco.ca[/email])>, "Rudi Van Hal" <rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl ([email]rvhgames(at)xs4all.nl[/email])>, "Rupert Armstrong" <writetorupert(at)gmail.com ([email]writetorupert(at)gmail.com[/email])>, "Steve Lytton" <stevelytton(at)hotmail.com ([email]stevelytton(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Suzanne Castagne" <sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr ([email]sucastag(at)wanadoo.fr[/email])>, "Ted Morley" <ee_morley(at)hotmail.com ([email]ee_morley(at)hotmail.com[/email])>, "Ted Morley" <Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov ([email]Ted.Morley(at)sen.ca.gov[/email])>
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 12:55 PM

YES vote from Russia.

________________________________
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Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:51:42 AM
Subject: Guns, Germs and Steel 1264 / DC110 - Fall 1879 - Till the Fat Lady Sings...

- TEMPERS FLARE AS WORLD REALIZES ... IT AIN'T OVER!!
- MEAT TENDERIZERS AND ATHLETIC CUPS FLY OFF SHELVES WORLD-WIDE

Okie. Lets all sit around the fire and have a short talk.

Some of you wish to end this game. I absolutely understand that. But despite how crazy it sounds to some, there are those of you who do NOT wish it to end. At least, not at this point.

This is a monster. We all knew it was a monster when we signed up to play. And the fact that its gone on for quite some time has not changed the truth in any way that this game remains a monster. What we have left with is a very good group of players that all have strong wills and personalities... And a board that seems locked to some but that still actually has quite a lot of play in it.

Please do not be discouraged that, if you are one of those wanting the game to end, that it is not - in fact - ending. =P

But okay - enough blabber from me. Fall rolls around and find Holland undergoing a massive withdrawal and reorganization in the south. China continues to get gobbled up and the British in exile suddenly find two thirds of their town halls waving American flags.

The Dutch solo proposal is kicked under the table meeting defeat. In the meanwhile, a new 6-way draw (US/France/Russia/Holland/Japan/China) is proposed. Please have your yay or nay votes on that submitted to me by the Winter 1879 deadline of Saturday, November 1st (11:59 PM GMT).

Strap on those cups, gentlemen. The time-clock hasn't quite run out. =P

Cheers!

Trout

Movement results for Fall of 1879. (1879 FALL)

China: A Manchuria (mac) Supports A Mongolia (mon) - Inner Mongolia (img).
China: A Mongolia (mon) - Inner Mongolia (img).

France: F Adriatic Sea (adr) Supports F Greece (gre).
France: F The Azores (azo) Supports F Bay of Biscay (bob).
France: F Bay of Biscay (bob) Supports F Nantes (nan).
France: A Berlin (ber) Supports A Kiel (kie).
France: A Bosnia (bos) Supports F Greece (gre).
France: A Brasilia (bra) Supports F Recife (rec).
France: F Brazil Current (bcu) Supports F South Georgia Islands (sgr).
France: F Cameroon (cmn) Supports F Okrana (okn).
France: F Canary Seaway(cny) Supports F Cape Verde Islands (vrd).
France: F Cape Verde Islands (vrd) Supports F Canary Seaway(cny).
France: F Coast of Argentina (cag) Supports F Brazil Current (bcu).
France: F Drake (dra) Supports F Brazil Current (bcu).
France: F Falkland Islands (fal) Supports F Drake (dra).
France: A Galicia (gal) Supports A Sevastopol (sev).
France: A Goyamas (goy) - Cochabamba (coh).
France: F Grain Coast (gcs) Supports F Middle Atlantic (mat).
France: F Greece (gre) Supports A Bosnia (bos).
France: F Gulf of Guinea (gog) Supports F Okrana (okn).
France: F Gulf of Lyon (lyo) - Gibraltar (gib) (*Fails*).
France: F Holland (hol) Supports A Rouen (rou).
France: F Ionian Sea (ion) - Sicily (sic).
France: A Kiel (kie) Supports A Berlin (ber).
France: A La Paz (lpa) Supports A Brasilia (bra).
France: F Middle Atlantic (mat) Supports F Recife (rec).
France: F Nantes (nan) Supports F Bay of Biscay (bob).
France: F Okrana (okn) Supports F Gulf of Guinea (gog).
France: A Paris (par) Supports F Nantes (nan).
France: A Quito (qto) Supports A La Paz (lpa).
France: F Recife (rec) Supports F Middle Atlantic (mat).
France: A Rio de Janeiro (rdj) Supports F Recife (rec).
France: A Rouen (rou) Supports F Holland (hol).
France: A Ruhr (ruh) Supports A Kiel (kie).
France: A Rumania (rum) Supports A Sevastopol (sev).
France: A Serbia (ser) Supports A Bosnia (bos).
France: A Silesia (sil) Supports A Berlin (ber).
France: F South Georgia Islands (sgr) Supports F Brazil Current (bcu).
France: A Stuttgart (stu) Supports A Kiel (kie).
France: A Tawarek (twr) Supports F Tripoli (trp).
France: F Tripoli (trp) Supports A Tunis (tun) (*Cut*).
France: A Tunis (tun) Supports F Tripoli (trp).
France: F Tyrrhenian Sea (tys) Supports A Tunis (tun).
France: A Wallacia (wlc) Supports A Rumania (rum).

Holland: F Angola (agl) - South Atlantic (sat) (*Bounce*).
Holland: F Angora (ang)(nc) Supports F Black Sea (bla).
Holland: F Antarctic Atlantic Ocean (aat) - Goodhope (goo).
Holland: F Antarctic Indian Ocean(ain) Supports F Antarctic Atlantic Ocean
(aat) (*Ordered to Move*).
Holland: F Antarctic Pacific Ocean(apa) - Barrier Sea (brr).
Holland: A Armenia (arm) - Tabrize (tbr).
Holland: A Assam (asm) - Yunnan (yun).
Holland: A Aswan (asw) - Fezz (fzz) (*Fails*).
Holland: A Baku (bku) - Georgia (geo).
Holland: F Barrier Sea (brr) - New South Wales (nsw).
Holland: F Bismark Sea (bis) - Izu Trench (izu) (*Fails*).
Holland: F Black Sea (bla) Convoys A Sevastopol (sev) - Baku (bku) (*Void*).
Holland: A Bokhara (bkh) - Kasala (ksl).
Holland: A Cairo (cai) Supports F Tubruq (tbq).
Holland: A Canton (can) Supports F Hong Kong (hko) - Fuchan (fuc).
Holland: F Caroline Islands (crl) Supports F Bismark Sea (bis) - Izu Trench
(izu) (*Fails*).
Holland: A Congo (cng) Supports F Angola (agl) (*Ordered to Move*).
Holland: F Constantinople (con) Supports A Sofia (sof).
Holland: F Coral Sea (cor) - Queensland (qnl).
Holland: F Crete (cre) - Ionian Sea (ion).
Holland: F Cyprus (cyp) - Eastern Mediterranean (eas).
Holland: F Damaraland (dml) - South Atlantic (sat) (*Bounce*).
Holland: A Dar Es Sallam (dar) Supports A Aswan (asw) - Fezz (fzz) (*Fails*).
Holland: F East China Sea (ecs) - Shanghai (sha).
Holland: F Eastern Mediterranean (eas) - Aegean Sea (aeg).
Holland: F Equatorial CounterCurrent (eco) - Bismark Sea (bis) (*Fails*).
Holland: A Evenki (eve) - Yakutsk (yak).
Holland: A Fezz (fzz) - Tripoli (trp) (*Fails*).
Holland: F Fiji (fij) - Coral Sea (cor).
Holland: F Formosa (for) Hold.
Holland: F Goodhope (goo) - West Indian (win).
Holland: F Hong Kong (hko) - Fuchan (fuc).
Holland: A Inner Mongolia (img) Supports A Irkutsk (irk) - Vladivostok (vla)
(*Disbanded*).
Holland: A Irkutsk (irk) - Vladivostok (vla) (*Fails*).
Holland: F Izu Trench (izu) - Kagoshima (kag) (*Fails*).
Holland: A Karachi (krc) - Bokhara (bkh).
Holland: A Kashgar (ksg) - Kirghiz (kir).
Holland: A Kirghiz (kir) - Mongolia (mon).
Holland: A Krasnoyarsk (kra) - Evenki (eve).
Holland: A Langchow (lch) Supports A Kirghiz (kir) - Mongolia (mon).
Holland: F Luzon (luz) Supports F Philippine (phi).
Holland: F Luzon Sea (lus) - Mindanao (mnd).
Holland: F Marshal Islands (mhl) Supports F West Pacific (wpa).
Holland: F New Guinea (ngu) - Timor (tim).
Holland: F New Zealand (nzl) - Tasman (tas).
Holland: F Okinawa (oki) Supports F Bismark Sea (bis) - Izu Trench (izu)
(*Fails*).
Holland: A Omsk (oms) Supports A Baku (bku) - Georgia (geo).
Holland: A Orenburg (orn) Supports A Baku (bku) - Georgia (geo).
Holland: F Philippine (phi) Supports F Bismark Sea (bis) - Izu Trench (izu)
(*Fails*).
Holland: F Shanghai (sha) - Peking (pek).
Holland: A Sinkiang (snk) Supports A Yunnan (yun) - Chungking (chk).
Holland: A Sofia (sof) Hold.
Holland: F South Atlantic (sat) - Cape Town (ctn).
Holland: F South China Sea (scs) Hold.
Holland: F South West Pacific (swp) - Equatorial CounterCurrent (eco) (*Fails*).
Holland: F Syria (syr)(wc) Supports F Cyprus (cyp) - Eastern Mediterranean
(eas).
Holland: A Tashkent (tsh) - Krasnoyarsk (kra).
Holland: A Tibet (tib) - Kashgar (ksg).
Holland: A Tonkin (tnk) Supports A Canton (can).
Holland: F Tubruq (tbq) Supports F Crete (cre) - Ionian Sea (ion).
Holland: F West Pacific (wpa) Supports F Kuril (kur) (*Ordered to Move*).
Holland: A Wuhan (wuh) Supports F Shanghai (sha) - Peking (pek).
Holland: A Yunnan (yun) - Chungking (chk).

Japan: F Edo (edo) Supports F Bering Sea (bse) - Kuril (kur).
Japan: F Fusan (fsn) Supports F Yellow Sea (yse).
Japan: F Kagoshima (kag) Supports F Yellow Sea (yse) (*Cut*).
Japan: F Kuril (kur) - Sapporo (sap).
Japan: F Port Arthur (poa) Supports A Manchuria (mac).
Japan: F Sea of Japan (soj) Supports F Yellow Sea (yse).
Japan: F Seoul (seo)(wc) Supports F Yellow Sea (yse).
Japan: A Vladivostok (vla) Hold.
Japan: F Yellow Sea (yse) Hold.

Russia: A Warsaw (war) Supports A Sevastopol (sev).
Russia: A Perm (prm) Supports A Moscow (mos).
Russia: A Sevastopol (sev) Supports A Moscow (mos).
Russia: A Moscow (mos) Supports A Perm (prm).

USA: A Alaska (ala) Hold.
USA: A Amazon (ama) Supports A Pramaiba (pra).
USA: F Baltic Sea (bal) Supports F North Sea (nth) - Denmark (den).
USA: A Barcelone (brc) Supports A Amazon (ama).
USA: F Barents Sea (bar) - Norway (nwy).
USA: F Bering Sea (bse) - Kuril (kur).
USA: A Caledonia (cld) Supports A Pramaiba (pra).
USA: F Cayenne (cyn) Supports F North East Trades (net).
USA: F Chesapeake Approaches (che) Supports F North Atlantic (nat).
USA: F Chilean Basin (cba) Supports F Drake (dra).
USA: F Counter Current (ccu) Supports F Hawaii (haw).
USA: F Denmark (den) - Sweden (swe).
USA: F Eastern Carribean (eca) Supports F Sargasso (sar).
USA: F Eastern Pacific (epa) Supports F Kirbati Sea (kse).
USA: F Eastern Seaboard (ese) Supports F North Atlantic (nat).
USA: F Finland (fin)(nc) Supports A St Petersburg (stp).
USA: F Gulf of Bothnia (bot) Supports F Baltic Sea (bal).
USA: F Hawaii (haw) Supports F Kirbati Sea (kse).
USA: F Helgoland Bight (hel) Supports F Norwegian Sea (nwg) - North Sea (nth).
USA: F Hudson (hud) Hold.
USA: F Kamchatka (kam) Supports F Bering Sea (bse) - Kuril (kur).
USA: F Kirbati Sea (kse) Hold.
USA: A Lima (lim) Supports A Amazon (ama).
USA: A Livonia (lvn) Supports A Moscow (mos).
USA: F North Atlantic (nat) Hold.
USA: F North East Trades (net) Hold.
USA: F North Pacific (npa) Supports F Westerlies (wst).
USA: F North Sea (nth) - Denmark (den).
USA: F Norwegian Sea (nwg) - North Sea (nth).
USA: F Nova Scotia (nsc) Supports F North Atlantic (nat).
USA: F Okhotsk (okh) Supports A Vladivostok (vla).
USA: F Pacific Basin (pba) Supports F Chilean Basin (cba).
USA: A Pramaiba (pra) Supports A Amazon (ama).
USA: A Ruperts Land (rla) Hold.
USA: F Sargasso (sar) Hold.
USA: F Society Islands (sct) Supports F South Pacific (spa).
USA: F South Pacific (spa) Hold.
USA: A St Petersburg (stp) Supports A Perm (prm).
USA: F Virgin Islands (vis) Supports F Sargasso (sar).
USA: F Westerlies (wst) Supports F Bering Sea (bse) - Kuril (kur).

Unit locations:

China: A Inner Mongolia (img), A Manchuria (mac).
France: F Adriatic Sea (adr), F The Azores (azo), F Bay of Biscay (bob), A
Berlin (ber), A Bosnia (bos), A Brasilia (bra), F Brazil Current
(bcu), F Cameroon (cmn), F Canary Seaway(cny), F Cape Verde Islands
(vrd), F Coast of Argentina (cag), A Cochabamba (coh), F Drake (dra),
F Falkland Islands (fal), A Galicia (gal), F Grain Coast (gcs), F
Greece (gre), F Gulf of Guinea (gog), F Gulf of Lyon (lyo), F Holland
(hol), A Kiel (kie), A La Paz (lpa), F Middle Atlantic (mat), F Nantes
(nan), F Okrana (okn), A Paris (par), A Quito (qto), F Recife (rec), A
Rio de Janeiro (rdj), A Rouen (rou), A Ruhr (ruh), A Rumania (rum), A
Serbia (ser), F Sicily (sic), A Silesia (sil), F South Georgia Islands
(sgr), A Stuttgart (stu), A Tawarek (twr), F Tripoli (trp), A Tunis
(tun), F Tyrrhenian Sea (tys), A Wallacia (wlc).
Holland: F Aegean Sea (aeg), F Angola (agl), F Angora (ang)(nc), F Antarctic
Indian Ocean(ain), A Aswan (asw), F Barrier Sea (brr), F Bismark Sea
(bis), F Black Sea (bla), A Bokhara (bkh), A Cairo (cai), A Canton
(can), F Cape Town (ctn), F Caroline Islands (crl), A Chungking (chk),
A Congo (cng), F Constantinople (con), F Coral Sea (cor), F Damaraland
(dml), A Dar Es Sallam (dar), F Eastern Mediterranean (eas), F
Equatorial CounterCurrent (eco), A Evenki (eve), A Fezz (fzz), F
Formosa (for), F Fuchan (fuc), A Georgia (geo), F Goodhope (goo), A
Inner Mongolia (img), F Ionian Sea (ion), A Irkutsk (irk), F Izu
Trench (izu), A Kasala (ksl), A Kashgar (ksg), A Kirghiz (kir), A
Krasnoyarsk (kra), A Langchow (lch), F Luzon (luz), F Marshal Islands
(mhl), F Mindanao (mnd), A Mongolia (mon), F New South Wales (nsw), F
Okinawa (oki), A Omsk (oms), A Orenburg (orn), F Peking (pek), F
Philippine (phi), F Queensland (qnl), F Shanghai (sha), A Sinkiang
(snk), A Sofia (sof), F South China Sea (scs), F South West Pacific
(swp), F Syria (syr)(wc), A Tabrize (tbr), F Tasman (tas), F Timor
(tim), A Tonkin (tnk), F Tubruq (tbq), F West Indian (win), F West
Pacific (wpa), A Wuhan (wuh), A Yakutsk (yak), A Yunnan (yun).
Japan: F Edo (edo), F Fusan (fsn), F Kagoshima (kag), F Port Arthur (poa), F
Sapporo (sap), F Sea of Japan (soj), F Seoul (seo)(wc), A Vladivostok
(vla), F Yellow Sea (yse).
Russia: A Warsaw (war), A Perm (prm), A Sevastopol (sev), A Moscow (mos).
USA: A Alaska (ala), A Amazon (ama), F Baltic Sea (bal), A Barcelone (brc),
A Caledonia (cld), F Cayenne (cyn), F Chesapeake Approaches (che), F
Chilean Basin (cba), F Counter Current (ccu), F Denmark (den), F
Eastern Carribean (eca), F Eastern Pacific (epa), F Eastern Seaboard
(ese), F Finland (fin)(nc), F Gulf of Bothnia (bot), F Hawaii (haw), F
Helgoland Bight (hel), F Hudson (hud), F Kamchatka (kam), F Kirbati
Sea (kse), F Kuril (kur), A Lima (lim), A Livonia (lvn), F North
Atlantic (nat), F North East Trades (net), F North Pacific (npa), F
North Sea (nth), F Norway (nwy), F Nova Scotia (nsc), F Okhotsk (okh),
F Pacific Basin (pba), A Pramaiba (pra), A Ruperts Land (rla), F
Sargasso (sar), F Society Islands (sct), F South Pacific (spa), A St
Petersburg (stp), F Sweden (swe), F Virgin Islands (vis), F Westerlies
(wst).

Ownership of supply centers:

Britain: Greenland (grn).
China: Manchuria (mac).
France: The Azores (azo), Bavaria (bav), Berlin (ber), Brasilia (bra),
Budapest (bud), Cameroon (cmn), Cape Verde Islands (vrd), Corsica
(crs), Crete (cre), Croatia (cro), Falkland Islands (fal), Gibraltar
(gib), Grain Coast (gcs), Greece (gre), Holland (hol), Ivory Coast
(ivc), Kiel (kie), La Paz (lpa), Marseilles (mar), Monrovia (mnv),
Morocco (mrc), Nantes (nan), Okrana (okn), Oliveira (oli), Paraguay
(prg), Paris (par), Piedmont (pie), Recife (rec), Rio de Janeiro
(rdj), Rome (rom), Ruhr (ruh), Rumania (rum), Salerno (sal), Serbia
(ser), Sicily (sic), Sierra Leone (sie), Silesia (sil), South Georgia
Islands (sgr), Stuttgart (stu), Tripoli (trp), Tunis (tun), Uruguay
(uru), Valencia (vlc), Venice (ven), Vienna (vie).
Holland: Abyssinia (aby), Aden (ade), Andaman Islands (amn), Angora (ang),
Baghdad (bag), Baku (bku), Bangalore (ban), Bangkok (bnk), Bengal
(ben), Bombay (bom), Borneo (brn), Botswana (bsw), Burma (brm), Cairo
(cai), Cambodia (cmb), Canton (can), Cape Town (ctn), Caroline Islands
(crl), Ceylon (cey), Chungking (chk), Cochin (cch), Constantinople
(con), Cyprus (cyp), Delhi (del), Fiji (fij), Formosa (for), Georgia
(geo), Hong Kong (hko), Irian Java (ija), Irkutsk (irk), Java (jav),
Karachi (krc), Kashmir (kas), Khiva (khv), Luzon (luz), Madagascar
(mad), Madras (mds), Malaysia (mal), Maldives (mld), Marshal Islands
(mhl), Mindanao (mnd), New Guinea (ngu), New South Wales (nsw), New
Zealand (nzl), Okinawa (oki), Oman (oma), Omsk (oms), Orenburg (orn),
Peking (pek), Perth (per), Queensland (qnl), Rangoon (rng), Rhodesia
(rho), Sarawak (srw), Seychelles (sey), Shanghai (sha), Singapore
(sin), Sinkiang (snk), Sofia (sof), Sudan (sud), Sumatra (sum),
Tashkent (tsh), Tehran (teh), Tonkin (tnk), Transvaal (trn), Wuhan
(wuh), Yuthia (yut).
Japan: Edo (edo), Fusan (fsn), Kagoshima (kag), Port Arthur (poa), Sakhurlin
(sak), Sapporo (sap), Seoul (seo), Vladivostok (vla).
Russia: Warsaw (war), Prussia (pru), Sevastopol (sev), Moscow (mos).
USA: Alberta (alb), Anchorage (anc), Atlanta (atl), Austin (aus), The
Bahamas (bah), Barcelone (brc), Bogota (bgt), Cayenne (cyn), Chicago
(chc), Cuba (cub), Denmark (den), Detroit (det), Dublin (dub),
Edinburgh (edi), Galapagos (glp), Haiti (hai), Hawaii (haw), Honduras
(hon), Kansas (kan), Lima (lim), London (lon), Mazatlan (maz), Merida
(mer), Mexico City (mex), Nebraska (neb), New Mexico (nme), New
Orleans (nol), New York (nyc), Norway (nwy), Nova Scotia (nsc),
Oklahoma (okl), Oregon (ore), Panama (pan), Paramaribo (pmb), Quebec
(que), Richmond (ric), San Francisco (sfo), Seattle (sea), Society
Islands (sct), St Petersburg (stp), Sweden (swe), Vancouver (van),
Victoria (vic), Virgin Islands (vis), Washington DC (wdc), Yukon (yuk).

Austria: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Brazil: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Britain: 1 Supply center , 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
China: 1 Supply center , 2 Units: Removes 1 unit.
CSA: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
France: 45 Supply centers, 42 Units: Builds 3 units.
Holland: 67 Supply centers, 63 Units: Builds 4 units.
Japan: 8 Supply centers, 9 Units: Removes 1 unit.
Mexico: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Prussia: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
Russia: 4 Supply centers, 4 Units: Builds 0 units.
Turkey: 0 Supply centers, 0 Units: Builds 0 units.
USA: 46 Supply centers, 40 Units: Builds 6 units.


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