| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MO... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
I've already thanked and congratulated everyone, so here are my cheap seat comments.
Unlike the real Shogun Oda, I usually play a conservative, defensive game. After having a chance to look at the map and lay out my initial strategy, I felt Oda's positioning would suit my play style well. In short, it affords quick initial growth along a pretty obvious path, providing great depth defensively. Unfortunately for me, my style of play and the Oda game characteristics combined to leave me in a great "also ran" position at the end of the game. Even less aggressive than usual, I reviewed the troops during parade and kept out of action until way too late.
I agree with the probable success of a coastline-running strategy, particularly for Asakura and Oda. Sadly for the two of us this time around, Asakura and Oda had much early stage difficulty in putting together a negotiated deal that was fully trusted by both parties making it all but impossible to exploit our natural advantage in access to key ocean territories.
This was an unbelievably fast match. Partially Oda's fault I'm afraid, for not seizing an earlier opportunity to harass or more the Mori in some small way. But with only a lone fleet available in the south--Oda's units being otherwise tied-up on the Takeda front--I'm not sure it would have made much of a difference in the end.
Regardless, I think you can have fun with this one either as a 12 or 15 sc game, but I'll bet they are each quite distinct in their play. I'll look forward to a 15 sc game some day to compare. I believe it'll play very differently. I see the 12 sc game as more of a sprint, than a marathon, requiring quickly established alliances and an aggressive offensive strategy. I think it makes for a fast, challenging, but very "tactical" game. No grand, world domination strategies needed and stabs probably should, as was pointed out, happen more quickly as a player may only have to fully engage two opponents to gather up the needed number. For the folks in the north and south ends of the map, this basically means screw your neighbor quickly and call it a victory. While the 15 sc game only requires a few additional sc's, it definitely will mean moving deeper into enemy territory and engaging more players. In our match, once Mori had realized successful negotiations with Asakura and Oda, he never really had to worry about the rest of the map.
You know, if Hojo had actually swung those ships around Oda (as promised but discarded in an earlier, failed stab attempt) and gotten mixed up down there, things may have turned out differently...
Take care!
Bruce
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Subject: Re: DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MORI SOLO!!
The new Shogun greets his old enemies.
First off, I just wanted to say thanks to all the players for making my first online game a lot of fun and to Trout for being a great GM.
Concerning the game, I wasn't sure how quickly these are supposed to go on, since this was my first. How long was this game expected to last?
Here's my try at an EOG: Although I see B H's point about it being easier to control one side of the sea and then just move up and down the coast. What I'm skeptical about, is whether you can get an alliance in which you won't get stabbed. When starting the game, Chosokabe proposed this, and I was immediately suspicious that he was trying to set me up for a stab. The problem is that Japan is just so narrow that it is almost impossible to split the island down the middle and still have enough strategic depth to weather a stab and still have something to fall back on. From the beginning. I thought the best way to get the 12 SC's was to take on either my two island opponents and stay out of what I saw as a separate sphere to the northeast. I guess, if there was a good balance between Chosokabe and Shimazu, Mori could try and take on Asakura or Oda, but the only trouble is that, if the balance didn't hold, either Shimazu or Chosokabe would end up surrounding Mori on two-sides, and it would be so tempting to try and swallow him up.
As far as the 12 or 15 thing is concerned, I still think, although it didn't happen this time, a 12 SC victory would be better for those powers in the center of the main island. Even if it had been 15 SC's to solo, I had 13 and no one to attack me on 3 sides. I would just throw everything I had up north, and I think I would have still gotten 15. And if everyone hadn't thrown everything at Takeda, he would have been able to do the same thing sooner. It demonstrates the problem that I was talking about earlier. For the six players on either end, the way to win this variant is to dominate their end. For the 2 middle players, the moving-up-the-coast strategy might work better, and I think that the 12 SC variant gives them a better chance, even if their chances still aren't as good as the end players.
By the way, the misorders were accidental, not strategic.
Anyways, I really enjoyed the game, and would definitely be up for playing this variant in the future.
From the new Bakufu,
Mori
On Nov 29, 2007 8:01 AM, B H < nairenvorbeck(at)yahoo.com ([email]nairenvorbeck(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
I have a short EOG of my own as an observer. Just notes really...
Since the most recent map revision, I have now seen games played at the 12 and 15 SC count victory conditions, and as it seems this one ended prematurely, that 15 (or perhaps even higher?) is the correct number. The lower SC victory count was created with two reasons in mind, one of which it does not appear to accomplish at all.
The first was to create greater chances of Oda and Asakura victory - those two in the middle that start in a minefield of open SCs would be able to race to an early solo if the outside "triangles" of C/M/S and T/U/H did not intervene.
The second reason was historical accuracy. Oda Nobunaga carved out an area roughly equivalent to 12 SCs when he earned the title of Shogun.
Anywho, I imagine the Takeda are a bit annoyed at the variant design right now, and perhaps rightly so at the 12 SC victory condition. Sengoku is designed to play MUCH faster than a game of Standard, which can last well over a year sometimes. But not this fast.
That said...
In the last four games of Sengoku, I have seen an interesting phenomenon that puzzles me a bit. Players have chosen the difficult path of operating on both the top and bottom of the map (geographical east and west, but for simplicity's sake, top and bottom). Takeda chose to polish off Uesugi in his entirety, and Hojo feels that his stab was premature. I would have stabbed even earlier perhaps, or not at all. But by operating on the top and bottom of the map, Takeda was vulnerable to the O/A coalition that stonewalled him, without placing them in the uncomfortable position of tripping over each other trying to attack him - each had ample Takeda targets on the top coast and the bottom coast.
My point is this, it's easiest to solo in Sengoku by mostly running up a coastline, whichever power you play, rather than trying to split your fleets on both sides of Japan.
As for Mori, his rise to power was astonishing. It seemed that he even misordered or neglected to order some of his units on multiple occasions. Tactic to appear non-threatening? Intentional timing to divert the attention to Takeda as Hojo claims? Maybe - regardless, his strike was extremely effective, and represents the first PBEM Mori solo that I'm aware of. (Mori players have soloed over a paper map in FTF before in earlier revisions).
Oda and Asakura played pretty much textbook - they did very well, but I don't think anyone in their position could have done well enough to deal with the extremely rapid rise of both Takeda and Mori. F1575 is one of the quickest endstates I've ever seen, draw resolutions included.
So we see the feature of Sengoku that annoys some people at work - it is entirely possible to do very well in your area, and have someone solo on the other side of the map just by doing a little bit better, even without coming into contact with each other.
Hope that doesn't turn anyone off to the variant, I enjoyed watching this one immensely, and hope you will play again sometime at whatever SC victory condition, 12 or 15. Congratulations to our new Mori shogun!
B!
Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:cd1bafdc36]From the Iwamisudera Monogatari:
Learning is to a man as leaves and branches are for a tree, and can be said that he should simply not be without it.
The drums of war fall silent as the Shogun rises from the south and quells all opposition. With definity, the Mori eliminate the last Shimazu resistance and surge to 13 supply centers - propelling Lee to a clear solo victory. The Oda and Asakura make a few attempted moves to the south, but the Mori don't give an inch. Meanwhile, the Hojo despite all odds eke out a survival and the Takeda watch - knowing that one day the Mori defenses will slip...
However, that is not to be in this game. Congratulations to Lee for his fine solo victory. My thanks, also, to all players on the board - both surviving and eliminated. This is one of my favorite variants, and it was a true pleasure to watch this one unfold.
So - that wraps up DC-123, Shade Of The Bonsai. End-of-game statements are MORE than welcome. I know Benjamin GREATLY values any input you have into the layout of the board, the positioning of the pieces and and general thoughts you have about the development of the Sengoku variant.
Thanks for the fun game everyone. We'll see you on the next board.. =)
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1575
GAME RESULT: MORI 13 CENTRE SOLO - YEAR 1575
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1575 TAKEDA PRESS:
achieving nothing
our cowardly foes ignore
the true deadly threat
FALL 1575 HOJO PRESS:
DEATH IS NOT MY MIDDLE NAME!
FALL 1575 ORDERS:
ODA:
F Kii Straits to Tosa [BOUNCE with TOS 1:1] A Kii to Awa VOID A Totomi to Suruga OK A S. Shinano holds OK A Mino S A S. Shinano to hold OK A Hida S A S. Shinano to hold OK F Pacific Ocean to N. Pacific Ocean OK
SHIMAZU:
A Hyu Holds [DISBANDED by BUN 2:1] A Osu Holds [DISBANDED by HIG 2:1]
TAKEDA:
F Noto S A Echigo - Etchu [DISBANDED by ETC 3:2] F Toyama Bay S F Noto H OK F Hitachi - Mutsu [BOUNCE with NSJ 1:1] A Kazusa H OK A Shimosa - Sagami OK A Echigo - Etchu OK A Kai S A N. Shinano H OK A North Shinano H OK A Sagami - Musashi OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Tango OK A Etchu - Noto OK A Hoki - Bingo [BOUNCE with IZU 1:1] A Kaga Supports A Etchu - Noto OK F North Sea of Japan - Mutsu [BOUNCE with HIT 1:1] F Sanin Coast - Iwami Coast OK F Wakasa Bay Supports A Etchu - Noto OK
HOJO:
HOLD ALL UNITS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED
[GM NOTE: F IZU HOLDS] OK
MORI:
A from Izumo to Bingo [BOUNCE with HOK 1:1] A from Iwami to Aki OK A from Nagato to Iwami OK A from Chikuzen to Nagato OK F from East China Sea to higo OK A from Bungo attacks Hyuga Ok F from Hyuga Coast supports A from Bungo attacking Hyuga OK A from Higo attacks Osumi OK F from Satsuma supports A from Higo attaking Osumi OK [GM NOTE: A AWA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: F TOSA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
EARLY WINTER 1575 RETREATS:
Shimazu A Hyga is Automatically Disbanded
Shimazu A Osumi is Automatically Disbanded
Takeda F Noto is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
ODA:
8 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii, Min, Ssh
5 Armies - Hid, Kii, Min, Sur, Ssh
2 Fleets - Npo, Kis
TAKEDA:
9 Supply Centers - Kai, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh, Sag, Kaz, Hit, Mut
6 Armies - Kaz, Sag, Etc, Kai, Nsh, Mus
2 Fleets - Tob, Hit
ASAKURA:
7 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas, Biz, Not
4 Armies - Tng, Hok, Kag, Not
3 Fleets - Wab, Nsj, Iwc
HOJO:
1 Supply Center - Izu
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Izu
MORI:
13 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm, San, Iyo, Hiz, Tos, Sat, Bun, Hig, Osu
7 Armies - Awa, Izm, Osu, Hyu, Iwa, Aki, Nag
4 Fleets - Hyc, Sat, Tos, Hig
UESUGI - ELIMINATED 1572
CHOSOKABE - ELIMINATED 1573
SHIMAZU - ELIMINATED 1575
Benjamin T. Hester
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| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MO... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
The new Shogun greets his old enemies.
First off, I just wanted to say thanks to all the players for making my first online game a lot of fun and to Trout for being a great GM.
Concerning the game, I wasn't sure how quickly these are supposed to go on, since this was my first. How long was this game expected to last?
Here's my try at an EOG: Although I see B H's point about it being easier to control one side of the sea and then just move up and down the coast. What I'm skeptical about, is whether you can get an alliance in which you won't get stabbed. When starting the game, Chosokabe proposed this, and I was immediately suspicious that he was trying to set me up for a stab. The problem is that Japan is just so narrow that it is almost impossible to split the island down the middle and still have enough strategic depth to weather a stab and still have something to fall back on. From the beginning. I thought the best way to get the 12 SC's was to take on either my two island opponents and stay out of what I saw as a separate sphere to the northeast. I guess, if there was a good balance between Chosokabe and Shimazu, Mori could try and take on Asakura or Oda, but the only trouble is that, if the balance didn't hold, either Shimazu or Chosokabe would end up surrounding Mori on two-sides, and it would be so tempting to try and swallow him up.
As far as the 12 or 15 thing is concerned, I still think, although it didn't happen this time, a 12 SC victory would be better for those powers in the center of the main island. Even if it had been 15 SC's to solo, I had 13 and no one to attack me on 3 sides. I would just throw everything I had up north, and I think I would have still gotten 15. And if everyone hadn't thrown everything at Takeda, he would have been able to do the same thing sooner. It demonstrates the problem that I was talking about earlier. For the six players on either end, the way to win this variant is to dominate their end. For the 2 middle players, the moving-up-the-coast strategy might work better, and I think that the 12 SC variant gives them a better chance, even if their chances still aren't as good as the end players.
By the way, the misorders were accidental, not strategic.
Anyways, I really enjoyed the game, and would definitely be up for playing this variant in the future.
From the new Bakufu,
Mori
On Nov 29, 2007 8:01 AM, B H < nairenvorbeck(at)yahoo.com ([email]nairenvorbeck(at)yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
I have a short EOG of my own as an observer. Just notes really...
Since the most recent map revision, I have now seen games played at the 12 and 15 SC count victory conditions, and as it seems this one ended prematurely, that 15 (or perhaps even higher?) is the correct number. The lower SC victory count was created with two reasons in mind, one of which it does not appear to accomplish at all.
The first was to create greater chances of Oda and Asakura victory - those two in the middle that start in a minefield of open SCs would be able to race to an early solo if the outside "triangles" of C/M/S and T/U/H did not intervene.
The second reason was historical accuracy. Oda Nobunaga carved out an area roughly equivalent to 12 SCs when he earned the title of Shogun.
Anywho, I imagine the Takeda are a bit annoyed at the variant design right now, and perhaps rightly so at the 12 SC victory condition. Sengoku is designed to play MUCH faster than a game of Standard, which can last well over a year sometimes. But not this fast.
That said...
In the last four games of Sengoku, I have seen an interesting phenomenon that puzzles me a bit. Players have chosen the difficult path of operating on both the top and bottom of the map (geographical east and west, but for simplicity's sake, top and bottom). Takeda chose to polish off Uesugi in his entirety, and Hojo feels that his stab was premature. I would have stabbed even earlier perhaps, or not at all. But by operating on the top and bottom of the map, Takeda was vulnerable to the O/A coalition that stonewalled him, without placing them in the uncomfortable position of tripping over each other trying to attack him - each had ample Takeda targets on the top coast and the bottom coast.
My point is this, it's easiest to solo in Sengoku by mostly running up a coastline, whichever power you play, rather than trying to split your fleets on both sides of Japan.
As for Mori, his rise to power was astonishing. It seemed that he even misordered or neglected to order some of his units on multiple occasions. Tactic to appear non-threatening? Intentional timing to divert the attention to Takeda as Hojo claims? Maybe - regardless, his strike was extremely effective, and represents the first PBEM Mori solo that I'm aware of. (Mori players have soloed over a paper map in FTF before in earlier revisions).
Oda and Asakura played pretty much textbook - they did very well, but I don't think anyone in their position could have done well enough to deal with the extremely rapid rise of both Takeda and Mori. F1575 is one of the quickest endstates I've ever seen, draw resolutions included.
So we see the feature of Sengoku that annoys some people at work - it is entirely possible to do very well in your area, and have someone solo on the other side of the map just by doing a little bit better, even without coming into contact with each other.
Hope that doesn't turn anyone off to the variant, I enjoyed watching this one immensely, and hope you will play again sometime at whatever SC victory condition, 12 or 15. Congratulations to our new Mori shogun!
B!
Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
[quote:e4e7f998e6]From the Iwamisudera Monogatari:
Learning is to a man as leaves and branches are for a tree, and can be said that he should simply not be without it.
The drums of war fall silent as the Shogun rises from the south and quells all opposition. With definity, the Mori eliminate the last Shimazu resistance and surge to 13 supply centers - propelling Lee to a clear solo victory. The Oda and Asakura make a few attempted moves to the south, but the Mori don't give an inch. Meanwhile, the Hojo despite all odds eke out a survival and the Takeda watch - knowing that one day the Mori defenses will slip...
However, that is not to be in this game. Congratulations to Lee for his fine solo victory. My thanks, also, to all players on the board - both surviving and eliminated. This is one of my favorite variants, and it was a true pleasure to watch this one unfold.
So - that wraps up DC-123, Shade Of The Bonsai. End-of-game statements are MORE than welcome. I know Benjamin GREATLY values any input you have into the layout of the board, the positioning of the pieces and and general thoughts you have about the development of the Sengoku variant.
Thanks for the fun game everyone. We'll see you on the next board.. =)
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1575
GAME RESULT: MORI 13 CENTRE SOLO - YEAR 1575
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1575 TAKEDA PRESS:
achieving nothing
our cowardly foes ignore
the true deadly threat
FALL 1575 HOJO PRESS:
DEATH IS NOT MY MIDDLE NAME!
FALL 1575 ORDERS:
ODA:
F Kii Straits to Tosa [BOUNCE with TOS 1:1] A Kii to Awa VOID A Totomi to Suruga OK A S. Shinano holds OK A Mino S A S. Shinano to hold OK A Hida S A S. Shinano to hold OK F Pacific Ocean to N. Pacific Ocean OK
SHIMAZU:
A Hyu Holds [DISBANDED by BUN 2:1] A Osu Holds [DISBANDED by HIG 2:1]
TAKEDA:
F Noto S A Echigo - Etchu [DISBANDED by ETC 3:2] F Toyama Bay S F Noto H OK F Hitachi - Mutsu [BOUNCE with NSJ 1:1] A Kazusa H OK A Shimosa - Sagami OK A Echigo - Etchu OK A Kai S A N. Shinano H OK A North Shinano H OK A Sagami - Musashi OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Tango OK A Etchu - Noto OK A Hoki - Bingo [BOUNCE with IZU 1:1] A Kaga Supports A Etchu - Noto OK F North Sea of Japan - Mutsu [BOUNCE with HIT 1:1] F Sanin Coast - Iwami Coast OK F Wakasa Bay Supports A Etchu - Noto OK
HOJO:
HOLD ALL UNITS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED
[GM NOTE: F IZU HOLDS] OK
MORI:
A from Izumo to Bingo [BOUNCE with HOK 1:1] A from Iwami to Aki OK A from Nagato to Iwami OK A from Chikuzen to Nagato OK F from East China Sea to higo OK A from Bungo attacks Hyuga Ok F from Hyuga Coast supports A from Bungo attacking Hyuga OK A from Higo attacks Osumi OK F from Satsuma supports A from Higo attaking Osumi OK [GM NOTE: A AWA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: F TOSA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
EARLY WINTER 1575 RETREATS:
Shimazu A Hyga is Automatically Disbanded
Shimazu A Osumi is Automatically Disbanded
Takeda F Noto is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
ODA:
8 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii, Min, Ssh
5 Armies - Hid, Kii, Min, Sur, Ssh
2 Fleets - Npo, Kis
TAKEDA:
9 Supply Centers - Kai, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh, Sag, Kaz, Hit, Mut
6 Armies - Kaz, Sag, Etc, Kai, Nsh, Mus
2 Fleets - Tob, Hit
ASAKURA:
7 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas, Biz, Not
4 Armies - Tng, Hok, Kag, Not
3 Fleets - Wab, Nsj, Iwc
HOJO:
1 Supply Center - Izu
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Izu
MORI:
13 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm, San, Iyo, Hiz, Tos, Sat, Bun, Hig, Osu
7 Armies - Awa, Izm, Osu, Hyu, Iwa, Aki, Nag
4 Fleets - Hyc, Sat, Tos, Hig
UESUGI - ELIMINATED 1572
CHOSOKABE - ELIMINATED 1573
SHIMAZU - ELIMINATED 1575
Benjamin T. Hester
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| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MO... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
All - I'd like to echo everyone's comments about how successfully this game was run and appreciate everyone being on tiem most of the time with orders, etc. I always get frustrated when games bog down.
As far as EOG thoughts go, I agonized over the decision to stab Hojo, but with the 12 center victory condition I felt I had a good shot at grabbing the shogunate. In hindsight, it might have been better to be less engaged with Oda and Asakura in attempting to play them off against one another, and have tried to cement one side of that equation in my favor. I suspected whatever I did might well be undone by the stab to Hojo anyways, so the challenge was to grab the 12th center as fast as I could afterwards. It was worth a shot. It would have been interesting to keep the alliance alive and try to take oda down, but with the way things were shaping up with Mori, I didn't think there'd be time to succeed *and* then turn on Hojo, so I went for it. My congratulations go to my immediate neighbors for playing a great game and holding me from the solo long enough for Mori to take it. I do wish Shimazu hadn't been taken in, but being frustrated from growth for so long must have been maddening.
May you all come to Buddha's palm someday and may your next life be an honorable one.
Kampai!
Takeda Shingen (Nathan)
----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:55:04 PM
Subject: DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MORI SOLO!!
From the Iwamisudera Monogatari:
Learning is to a man as leaves and branches are for a tree, and can be said that he should simply not be without it.
The drums of war fall silent as the Shogun rises from the south and quells all opposition. With definity, the Mori eliminate the last Shimazu resistance and surge to 13 supply centers - propelling Lee to a clear solo victory. The Oda and Asakura make a few attempted moves to the south, but the Mori don't give an inch. Meanwhile, the Hojo despite all odds eke out a survival and the Takeda watch - knowing that one day the Mori defenses will slip...
However, that is not to be in this game. Congratulations to Lee for his fine solo victory. My thanks, also, to all players on the board - both surviving and eliminated. This is one of my favorite variants, and it was a true pleasure to watch this one unfold.
So - that wraps up DC-123, Shade Of The Bonsai. End-of-game statements are MORE than welcome. I know Benjamin GREATLY values any input you have into the layout of the board, the positioning of the pieces and and general thoughts you have about the development of the Sengoku variant.
Thanks for the fun game everyone. We'll see you on the next board.. =)
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1575
GAME RESULT: MORI 13 CENTRE SOLO - YEAR 1575
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1575 TAKEDA PRESS:
achieving nothing
our cowardly foes ignore
the true deadly threat
FALL 1575 HOJO PRESS:
DEATH IS NOT MY MIDDLE NAME!
FALL 1575 ORDERS:
ODA:
F Kii Straits to Tosa [BOUNCE with TOS 1:1] A Kii to Awa VOID A Totomi to Suruga OK A S. Shinano holds OK A Mino S A S. Shinano to hold OK A Hida S A S. Shinano to hold OK F Pacific Ocean to N. Pacific Ocean OK
SHIMAZU:
A Hyu Holds [DISBANDED by BUN 2:1] A Osu Holds [DISBANDED by HIG 2:1]
TAKEDA:
F Noto S A Echigo - Etchu [DISBANDED by ETC 3:2] F Toyama Bay S F Noto H OK F Hitachi - Mutsu [BOUNCE with NSJ 1:1] A Kazusa H OK A Shimosa - Sagami OK A Echigo - Etchu OK A Kai S A N. Shinano H OK A North Shinano H OK A Sagami - Musashi OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Tango OK A Etchu - Noto OK A Hoki - Bingo [BOUNCE with IZU 1:1] A Kaga Supports A Etchu - Noto OK F North Sea of Japan - Mutsu [BOUNCE with HIT 1:1] F Sanin Coast - Iwami Coast OK F Wakasa Bay Supports A Etchu - Noto OK
HOJO:
HOLD ALL UNITS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED
[GM NOTE: F IZU HOLDS] OK
MORI:
A from Izumo to Bingo [BOUNCE with HOK 1:1] A from Iwami to Aki OK A from Nagato to Iwami OK A from Chikuzen to Nagato OK F from East China Sea to higo OK A from Bungo attacks Hyuga Ok F from Hyuga Coast supports A from Bungo attacking Hyuga OK A from Higo attacks Osumi OK F from Satsuma supports A from Higo attaking Osumi OK [GM NOTE: A AWA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: F TOSA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
EARLY WINTER 1575 RETREATS:
Shimazu A Hyga is Automatically Disbanded
Shimazu A Osumi is Automatically Disbanded
Takeda F Noto is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
ODA:
8 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii, Min, Ssh
5 Armies - Hid, Kii, Min, Sur, Ssh
2 Fleets - Npo, Kis
TAKEDA:
9 Supply Centers - Kai, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh, Sag, Kaz, Hit, Mut
6 Armies - Kaz, Sag, Etc, Kai, Nsh, Mus
2 Fleets - Tob, Hit
ASAKURA:
7 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas, Biz, Not
4 Armies - Tng, Hok, Kag, Not
3 Fleets - Wab, Nsj, Iwc
HOJO:
1 Supply Center - Izu
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Izu
MORI:
13 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm, San, Iyo, Hiz, Tos, Sat, Bun, Hig, Osu
7 Armies - Awa, Izm, Osu, Hyu, Iwa, Aki, Nag
4 Fleets - Hyc, Sat, Tos, Hig
UESUGI - ELIMINATED 1572
CHOSOKABE - ELIMINATED 1573
SHIMAZU - ELIMINATED 1575[Reply] |
| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MO... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Trout,
Thanks for a very well run game! I very much enjoyed it and would absolutely play another round of this varient in the future (and hopefully change the outcome a bit).
I look forward to the next one.
Best regards.
Bruce
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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:55:04 PM
Subject: DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MORI SOLO!!
From the Iwamisudera Monogatari:
Learning is to a man as leaves and branches are for a tree, and can be said that he should simply not be without it.
The drums of war fall silent as the Shogun rises from the south and quells all opposition. With definity, the Mori eliminate the last Shimazu resistance and surge to 13 supply centers - propelling Lee to a clear solo victory. The Oda and Asakura make a few attempted moves to the south, but the Mori don't give an inch. Meanwhile, the Hojo despite all odds eke out a survival and the Takeda watch - knowing that one day the Mori defenses will slip...
However, that is not to be in this game. Congratulations to Lee for his fine solo victory. My thanks, also, to all players on the board - both surviving and eliminated. This is one of my favorite variants, and it was a true pleasure to watch this one unfold.
So - that wraps up DC-123, Shade Of The Bonsai. End-of-game statements are MORE than welcome. I know Benjamin GREATLY values any input you have into the layout of the board, the positioning of the pieces and and general thoughts you have about the development of the Sengoku variant.
Thanks for the fun game everyone. We'll see you on the next board.. =)
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1575
GAME RESULT: MORI 13 CENTRE SOLO - YEAR 1575
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1575 TAKEDA PRESS:
achieving nothing
our cowardly foes ignore
the true deadly threat
FALL 1575 HOJO PRESS:
DEATH IS NOT MY MIDDLE NAME!
FALL 1575 ORDERS:
ODA:
F Kii Straits to Tosa [BOUNCE with TOS 1:1] A Kii to Awa VOID A Totomi to Suruga OK A S. Shinano holds OK A Mino S A S. Shinano to hold OK A Hida S A S. Shinano to hold OK F Pacific Ocean to N. Pacific Ocean OK
SHIMAZU:
A Hyu Holds [DISBANDED by BUN 2:1] A Osu Holds [DISBANDED by HIG 2:1]
TAKEDA:
F Noto S A Echigo - Etchu [DISBANDED by ETC 3:2] F Toyama Bay S F Noto H OK F Hitachi - Mutsu [BOUNCE with NSJ 1:1] A Kazusa H OK A Shimosa - Sagami OK A Echigo - Etchu OK A Kai S A N. Shinano H OK A North Shinano H OK A Sagami - Musashi OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Tango OK A Etchu - Noto OK A Hoki - Bingo [BOUNCE with IZU 1:1] A Kaga Supports A Etchu - Noto OK F North Sea of Japan - Mutsu [BOUNCE with HIT 1:1] F Sanin Coast - Iwami Coast OK F Wakasa Bay Supports A Etchu - Noto OK
HOJO:
HOLD ALL UNITS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED
[GM NOTE: F IZU HOLDS] OK
MORI:
A from Izumo to Bingo [BOUNCE with HOK 1:1] A from Iwami to Aki OK A from Nagato to Iwami OK A from Chikuzen to Nagato OK F from East China Sea to higo OK A from Bungo attacks Hyuga Ok F from Hyuga Coast supports A from Bungo attacking Hyuga OK A from Higo attacks Osumi OK F from Satsuma supports A from Higo attaking Osumi OK [GM NOTE: A AWA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: F TOSA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
EARLY WINTER 1575 RETREATS:
Shimazu A Hyga is Automatically Disbanded
Shimazu A Osumi is Automatically Disbanded
Takeda F Noto is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
ODA:
8 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii, Min, Ssh
5 Armies - Hid, Kii, Min, Sur, Ssh
2 Fleets - Npo, Kis
TAKEDA:
9 Supply Centers - Kai, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh, Sag, Kaz, Hit, Mut
6 Armies - Kaz, Sag, Etc, Kai, Nsh, Mus
2 Fleets - Tob, Hit
ASAKURA:
7 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas, Biz, Not
4 Armies - Tng, Hok, Kag, Not
3 Fleets - Wab, Nsj, Iwc
HOJO:
1 Supply Center - Izu
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Izu
MORI:
13 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm, San, Iyo, Hiz, Tos, Sat, Bun, Hig, Osu
7 Armies - Awa, Izm, Osu, Hyu, Iwa, Aki, Nag
4 Fleets - Hyc, Sat, Tos, Hig
UESUGI - ELIMINATED 1572
CHOSOKABE - ELIMINATED 1573
SHIMAZU - ELIMINATED 1575
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| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MO... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Congrats to Shogun Mori!
Good game all. Learned a lot and had fun. I look forward to the next opportunity.
Best regards.
Bruce (Oda)
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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:55:04 PM
Subject: DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MORI SOLO!!
From the Iwamisudera Monogatari:
Learning is to a man as leaves and branches are for a tree, and can be said that he should simply not be without it.
The drums of war fall silent as the Shogun rises from the south and quells all opposition. With definity, the Mori eliminate the last Shimazu resistance and surge to 13 supply centers - propelling Lee to a clear solo victory. The Oda and Asakura make a few attempted moves to the south, but the Mori don't give an inch. Meanwhile, the Hojo despite all odds eke out a survival and the Takeda watch - knowing that one day the Mori defenses will slip...
However, that is not to be in this game. Congratulations to Lee for his fine solo victory. My thanks, also, to all players on the board - both surviving and eliminated. This is one of my favorite variants, and it was a true pleasure to watch this one unfold.
So - that wraps up DC-123, Shade Of The Bonsai. End-of-game statements are MORE than welcome. I know Benjamin GREATLY values any input you have into the layout of the board, the positioning of the pieces and and general thoughts you have about the development of the Sengoku variant.
Thanks for the fun game everyone. We'll see you on the next board.. =)
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1575
GAME RESULT: MORI 13 CENTRE SOLO - YEAR 1575
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1575 TAKEDA PRESS:
achieving nothing
our cowardly foes ignore
the true deadly threat
FALL 1575 HOJO PRESS:
DEATH IS NOT MY MIDDLE NAME!
FALL 1575 ORDERS:
ODA:
F Kii Straits to Tosa [BOUNCE with TOS 1:1] A Kii to Awa VOID A Totomi to Suruga OK A S. Shinano holds OK A Mino S A S. Shinano to hold OK A Hida S A S. Shinano to hold OK F Pacific Ocean to N. Pacific Ocean OK
SHIMAZU:
A Hyu Holds [DISBANDED by BUN 2:1] A Osu Holds [DISBANDED by HIG 2:1]
TAKEDA:
F Noto S A Echigo - Etchu [DISBANDED by ETC 3:2] F Toyama Bay S F Noto H OK F Hitachi - Mutsu [BOUNCE with NSJ 1:1] A Kazusa H OK A Shimosa - Sagami OK A Echigo - Etchu OK A Kai S A N. Shinano H OK A North Shinano H OK A Sagami - Musashi OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Tango OK A Etchu - Noto OK A Hoki - Bingo [BOUNCE with IZU 1:1] A Kaga Supports A Etchu - Noto OK F North Sea of Japan - Mutsu [BOUNCE with HIT 1:1] F Sanin Coast - Iwami Coast OK F Wakasa Bay Supports A Etchu - Noto OK
HOJO:
HOLD ALL UNITS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED
[GM NOTE: F IZU HOLDS] OK
MORI:
A from Izumo to Bingo [BOUNCE with HOK 1:1] A from Iwami to Aki OK A from Nagato to Iwami OK A from Chikuzen to Nagato OK F from East China Sea to higo OK A from Bungo attacks Hyuga Ok F from Hyuga Coast supports A from Bungo attacking Hyuga OK A from Higo attacks Osumi OK F from Satsuma supports A from Higo attaking Osumi OK [GM NOTE: A AWA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: F TOSA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
EARLY WINTER 1575 RETREATS:
Shimazu A Hyga is Automatically Disbanded
Shimazu A Osumi is Automatically Disbanded
Takeda F Noto is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
ODA:
8 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii, Min, Ssh
5 Armies - Hid, Kii, Min, Sur, Ssh
2 Fleets - Npo, Kis
TAKEDA:
9 Supply Centers - Kai, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh, Sag, Kaz, Hit, Mut
6 Armies - Kaz, Sag, Etc, Kai, Nsh, Mus
2 Fleets - Tob, Hit
ASAKURA:
7 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas, Biz, Not
4 Armies - Tng, Hok, Kag, Not
3 Fleets - Wab, Nsj, Iwc
HOJO:
1 Supply Center - Izu
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Izu
MORI:
13 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm, San, Iyo, Hiz, Tos, Sat, Bun, Hig, Osu
7 Armies - Awa, Izm, Osu, Hyu, Iwa, Aki, Nag
4 Fleets - Hyc, Sat, Tos, Hig
UESUGI - ELIMINATED 1572
CHOSOKABE - ELIMINATED 1573
SHIMAZU - ELIMINATED 1575
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| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MO... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
I have a short EOG of my own as an observer. Just notes really...
Since the most recent map revision, I have now seen games played at the 12 and 15 SC count victory conditions, and as it seems this one ended prematurely, that 15 (or perhaps even higher?) is the correct number. The lower SC victory count was created with two reasons in mind, one of which it does not appear to accomplish at all.
The first was to create greater chances of Oda and Asakura victory - those two in the middle that start in a minefield of open SCs would be able to race to an early solo if the outside "triangles" of C/M/S and T/U/H did not intervene.
The second reason was historical accuracy. Oda Nobunaga carved out an area roughly equivalent to 12 SCs when he earned the title of Shogun.
Anywho, I imagine the Takeda are a bit annoyed at the variant design right now, and perhaps rightly so at the 12 SC victory condition. Sengoku is designed to play MUCH faster than a game of Standard, which can last well over a year sometimes. But not this fast.
That said...
In the last four games of Sengoku, I have seen an interesting phenomenon that puzzles me a bit. Players have chosen the difficult path of operating on both the top and bottom of the map (geographical east and west, but for simplicity's sake, top and bottom). Takeda chose to polish off Uesugi in his entirety, and Hojo feels that his stab was premature. I would have stabbed even earlier perhaps, or not at all. But by operating on the top and bottom of the map, Takeda was vulnerable to the O/A coalition that stonewalled him, without placing them in the uncomfortable position of tripping over each other trying to attack him - each had ample Takeda targets on the top coast and the bottom coast.
My point is this, it's easiest to solo in Sengoku by mostly running up a coastline, whichever power you play, rather than trying to split your fleets on both sides of Japan.
As for Mori, his rise to power was astonishing. It seemed that he even misordered or neglected to order some of his units on multiple occasions. Tactic to appear non-threatening? Intentional timing to divert the attention to Takeda as Hojo claims? Maybe - regardless, his strike was extremely effective, and represents the first PBEM Mori solo that I'm aware of. (Mori players have soloed over a paper map in FTF before in earlier revisions).
Oda and Asakura played pretty much textbook - they did very well, but I don't think anyone in their position could have done well enough to deal with the extremely rapid rise of both Takeda and Mori. F1575 is one of the quickest endstates I've ever seen, draw resolutions included.
So we see the feature of Sengoku that annoys some people at work - it is entirely possible to do very well in your area, and have someone solo on the other side of the map just by doing a little bit better, even without coming into contact with each other.
Hope that doesn't turn anyone off to the variant, I enjoyed watching this one immensely, and hope you will play again sometime at whatever SC victory condition, 12 or 15. Congratulations to our new Mori shogun!
B!
Former Trout <former.trout(at)gmail.com> wrote:
From the Iwamisudera Monogatari:
Learning is to a man as leaves and branches are for a tree, and can be said that he should simply not be without it.
The drums of war fall silent as the Shogun rises from the south and quells all opposition. With definity, the Mori eliminate the last Shimazu resistance and surge to 13 supply centers - propelling Lee to a clear solo victory. The Oda and Asakura make a few attempted moves to the south, but the Mori don't give an inch. Meanwhile, the Hojo despite all odds eke out a survival and the Takeda watch - knowing that one day the Mori defenses will slip...
However, that is not to be in this game. Congratulations to Lee for his fine solo victory. My thanks, also, to all players on the board - both surviving and eliminated. This is one of my favorite variants, and it was a true pleasure to watch this one unfold.
So - that wraps up DC-123, Shade Of The Bonsai. End-of-game statements are MORE than welcome. I know Benjamin GREATLY values any input you have into the layout of the board, the positioning of the pieces and and general thoughts you have about the development of the Sengoku variant.
Thanks for the fun game everyone. We'll see you on the next board.. =)
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1575
GAME RESULT: MORI 13 CENTRE SOLO - YEAR 1575
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1575 TAKEDA PRESS:
achieving nothing
our cowardly foes ignore
the true deadly threat
FALL 1575 HOJO PRESS:
DEATH IS NOT MY MIDDLE NAME!
FALL 1575 ORDERS:
ODA:
F Kii Straits to Tosa [BOUNCE with TOS 1:1] A Kii to Awa VOID A Totomi to Suruga OK A S. Shinano holds OK A Mino S A S. Shinano to hold OK A Hida S A S. Shinano to hold OK F Pacific Ocean to N. Pacific Ocean OK
SHIMAZU:
A Hyu Holds [DISBANDED by BUN 2:1] A Osu Holds [DISBANDED by HIG 2:1]
TAKEDA:
F Noto S A Echigo - Etchu [DISBANDED by ETC 3:2] F Toyama Bay S F Noto H OK F Hitachi - Mutsu [BOUNCE with NSJ 1:1] A Kazusa H OK A Shimosa - Sagami OK A Echigo - Etchu OK A Kai S A N. Shinano H OK A North Shinano H OK A Sagami - Musashi OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Tango OK A Etchu - Noto OK A Hoki - Bingo [BOUNCE with IZU 1:1] A Kaga Supports A Etchu - Noto OK F North Sea of Japan - Mutsu [BOUNCE with HIT 1:1] F Sanin Coast - Iwami Coast OK F Wakasa Bay Supports A Etchu - Noto OK
HOJO:
HOLD ALL UNITS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED
[GM NOTE: F IZU HOLDS] OK
MORI:
A from Izumo to Bingo [BOUNCE with HOK 1:1] A from Iwami to Aki OK A from Nagato to Iwami OK A from Chikuzen to Nagato OK F from East China Sea to higo OK A from Bungo attacks Hyuga Ok F from Hyuga Coast supports A from Bungo attacking Hyuga OK A from Higo attacks Osumi OK F from Satsuma supports A from Higo attaking Osumi OK [GM NOTE: A AWA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: F TOSA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
EARLY WINTER 1575 RETREATS:
Shimazu A Hyga is Automatically Disbanded
Shimazu A Osumi is Automatically Disbanded
Takeda F Noto is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
ODA:
8 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii, Min, Ssh
5 Armies - Hid, Kii, Min, Sur, Ssh
2 Fleets - Npo, Kis
TAKEDA:
9 Supply Centers - Kai, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh, Sag, Kaz, Hit, Mut
6 Armies - Kaz, Sag, Etc, Kai, Nsh, Mus
2 Fleets - Tob, Hit
ASAKURA:
7 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas, Biz, Not
4 Armies - Tng, Hok, Kag, Not
3 Fleets - Wab, Nsj, Iwc
HOJO:
1 Supply Center - Izu
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Izu
MORI:
13 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm, San, Iyo, Hiz, Tos, Sat, Bun, Hig, Osu
7 Armies - Awa, Izm, Osu, Hyu, Iwa, Aki, Nag
4 Fleets - Hyc, Sat, Tos, Hig
UESUGI - ELIMINATED 1572
CHOSOKABE - ELIMINATED 1573
SHIMAZU - ELIMINATED 1575
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| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai -HOJO EOG - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Like lightning beyond..thunder strikes for the wiser
Hubris waits for none.
First thanks so much to Lord Trout for a well ran game!
One can always expect the best in this business of the best!!
Well, this is one of my least favorite, and most favorite variant.....
yes i love to hate it.....
I started this game not knowing anyone in the group, all new faces to
me and yet there was a sinking suspicion that they may know of me.....
oh well, perhaps thats just my ego....
I allied with the best talker of the group which ended up to be Nathan, aka
Lord Takeda...the hand of Buddha....Nathan ia a great orator, diplomat and
stabber!
I knew from playing this variant that patience is key, a sudden move
will kill you pretty much in one fell swoop, so I let Takeda call the shots....we
finished off Chokosabe pretty quickly and I knew that I was setting myself for
a massive stab....but like every game, timing is paramount, and when Takeda stabbed
me.....brilliantly might I add....I knew that it was about 2 turns too soon....it cemented
Asakura and Oda...two forces that I knew would not relent.
I told Nathan that the stab should come when Bruce and Josh were at war, they were
never at war and when the stab came, I knew the solo for Takeda would be shot to hell,
and it was.... as Mori just picked up the southern pieces as Oda and Askaura went
'postal' on Takeda.
I think more to do with the fact that his stab of me was so
nice that punishment was all the recourse that could have been done.
I know that a mortal would should finish your opponent...but more importantly
you have to offer your next of kin an opportunity to grow...and I don't think
Nathan gave that to the Oda/Asakura clan.
All in all good play, and excellent stab by Nathan.
I'm glad to have survived!
May Buddha's lone hand
Give reverence to the meek.
Divisive, with Grace.
Lord Hojo
On Nov 28, 2007, at 9:55 PM, Former Trout wrote:
From the Iwamisudera Monogatari:
Learning is to a man as leaves and branches are for a tree, and can be said that he should simply not be without it.
The drums of war fall silent as the Shogun rises from the south and quells all opposition. With definity, the Mori eliminate the last Shimazu resistance and surge to 13 supply centers - propelling Lee to a clear solo victory. The Oda and Asakura make a few attempted moves to the south, but the Mori don't give an inch. Meanwhile, the Hojo despite all odds eke out a survival and the Takeda watch - knowing that one day the Mori defenses will slip...
However, that is not to be in this game. Congratulations to Lee for his fine solo victory. My thanks, also, to all players on the board - both surviving and eliminated. This is one of my favorite variants, and it was a true pleasure to watch this one unfold.
So - that wraps up DC-123, Shade Of The Bonsai. End-of-game statements are MORE than welcome. I know Benjamin GREATLY values any input you have into the layout of the board, the positioning of the pieces and and general thoughts you have about the development of the Sengoku variant.
Thanks for the fun game everyone. We'll see you on the next board.. =)
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1575
GAME RESULT: MORI 13 CENTRE SOLO - YEAR 1575
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1575 TAKEDA PRESS:
achieving nothing
our cowardly foes ignore
the true deadly threat
FALL 1575 HOJO PRESS:
DEATH IS NOT MY MIDDLE NAME!
FALL 1575 ORDERS:
ODA:
F Kii Straits to Tosa [BOUNCE with TOS 1:1] A Kii to Awa VOID A Totomi to Suruga OK A S. Shinano holds OK A Mino S A S. Shinano to hold OK A Hida S A S. Shinano to hold OK F Pacific Ocean to N. Pacific Ocean OK
SHIMAZU:
A Hyu Holds [DISBANDED by BUN 2:1] A Osu Holds [DISBANDED by HIG 2:1]
TAKEDA:
F Noto S A Echigo - Etchu [DISBANDED by ETC 3:2] F Toyama Bay S F Noto H OK F Hitachi - Mutsu [BOUNCE with NSJ 1:1] A Kazusa H OK A Shimosa - Sagami OK A Echigo - Etchu OK A Kai S A N. Shinano H OK A North Shinano H OK A Sagami - Musashi OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Tango OK A Etchu - Noto OK A Hoki - Bingo [BOUNCE with IZU 1:1] A Kaga Supports A Etchu - Noto OK F North Sea of Japan - Mutsu [BOUNCE with HIT 1:1] F Sanin Coast - Iwami Coast OK F Wakasa Bay Supports A Etchu - Noto OK
HOJO:
HOLD ALL UNITS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED
[GM NOTE: F IZU HOLDS] OK
MORI:
A from Izumo to Bingo [BOUNCE with HOK 1:1] A from Iwami to Aki OK A from Nagato to Iwami OK A from Chikuzen to Nagato OK F from East China Sea to higo OK A from Bungo attacks Hyuga Ok F from Hyuga Coast supports A from Bungo attacking Hyuga OK A from Higo attacks Osumi OK F from Satsuma supports A from Higo attaking Osumi OK [GM NOTE: A AWA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: F TOSA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
EARLY WINTER 1575 RETREATS:
Shimazu A Hyga is Automatically Disbanded
Shimazu A Osumi is Automatically Disbanded
Takeda F Noto is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
ODA:
8 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii, Min, Ssh
5 Armies - Hid, Kii, Min, Sur, Ssh
2 Fleets - Npo, Kis
TAKEDA:
9 Supply Centers - Kai, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh, Sag, Kaz, Hit, Mut
6 Armies - Kaz, Sag, Etc, Kai, Nsh, Mus
2 Fleets - Tob, Hit
ASAKURA:
7 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas, Biz, Not
4 Armies - Tng, Hok, Kag, Not
3 Fleets - Wab, Nsj, Iwc
HOJO:
1 Supply Center - Izu
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Izu
MORI:
13 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm, San, Iyo, Hiz, Tos, Sat, Bun, Hig, Osu
7 Armies - Awa, Izm, Osu, Hyu, Iwa, Aki, Nag
4 Fleets - Hyc, Sat, Tos, Hig
UESUGI - ELIMINATED 1572
CHOSOKABE - ELIMINATED 1573
SHIMAZU - ELIMINATED 1575
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| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1575 - Swans - MO... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
From the Iwamisudera Monogatari:
Learning is to a man as leaves and branches are for a tree, and can be said that he should simply not be without it.
The drums of war fall silent as the Shogun rises from the south and quells all opposition. With definity, the Mori eliminate the last Shimazu resistance and surge to 13 supply centers - propelling Lee to a clear solo victory. The Oda and Asakura make a few attempted moves to the south, but the Mori don't give an inch. Meanwhile, the Hojo despite all odds eke out a survival and the Takeda watch - knowing that one day the Mori defenses will slip...
However, that is not to be in this game. Congratulations to Lee for his fine solo victory. My thanks, also, to all players on the board - both surviving and eliminated. This is one of my favorite variants, and it was a true pleasure to watch this one unfold.
So - that wraps up DC-123, Shade Of The Bonsai. End-of-game statements are MORE than welcome. I know Benjamin GREATLY values any input you have into the layout of the board, the positioning of the pieces and and general thoughts you have about the development of the Sengoku variant.
Thanks for the fun game everyone. We'll see you on the next board.. =)
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1575
GAME RESULT: MORI 13 CENTRE SOLO - YEAR 1575
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1575 TAKEDA PRESS:
achieving nothing
our cowardly foes ignore
the true deadly threat
FALL 1575 HOJO PRESS:
DEATH IS NOT MY MIDDLE NAME!
FALL 1575 ORDERS:
ODA:
F Kii Straits to Tosa [BOUNCE with TOS 1:1] A Kii to Awa VOID A Totomi to Suruga OK A S. Shinano holds OK A Mino S A S. Shinano to hold OK A Hida S A S. Shinano to hold OK F Pacific Ocean to N. Pacific Ocean OK
SHIMAZU:
A Hyu Holds [DISBANDED by BUN 2:1] A Osu Holds [DISBANDED by HIG 2:1]
TAKEDA:
F Noto S A Echigo - Etchu [DISBANDED by ETC 3:2] F Toyama Bay S F Noto H OK F Hitachi - Mutsu [BOUNCE with NSJ 1:1] A Kazusa H OK A Shimosa - Sagami OK A Echigo - Etchu OK A Kai S A N. Shinano H OK A North Shinano H OK A Sagami - Musashi OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Tango OK A Etchu - Noto OK A Hoki - Bingo [BOUNCE with IZU 1:1] A Kaga Supports A Etchu - Noto OK F North Sea of Japan - Mutsu [BOUNCE with HIT 1:1] F Sanin Coast - Iwami Coast OK F Wakasa Bay Supports A Etchu - Noto OK
HOJO:
HOLD ALL UNITS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED
[GM NOTE: F IZU HOLDS] OK
MORI:
A from Izumo to Bingo [BOUNCE with HOK 1:1] A from Iwami to Aki OK A from Nagato to Iwami OK A from Chikuzen to Nagato OK F from East China Sea to higo OK A from Bungo attacks Hyuga Ok F from Hyuga Coast supports A from Bungo attacking Hyuga OK A from Higo attacks Osumi OK F from Satsuma supports A from Higo attaking Osumi OK [GM NOTE: A AWA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: F TOSA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
EARLY WINTER 1575 RETREATS:
Shimazu A Hyga is Automatically Disbanded
Shimazu A Osumi is Automatically Disbanded
Takeda F Noto is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
ODA:
8 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii, Min, Ssh
5 Armies - Hid, Kii, Min, Sur, Ssh
2 Fleets - Npo, Kis
TAKEDA:
9 Supply Centers - Kai, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh, Sag, Kaz, Hit, Mut
6 Armies - Kaz, Sag, Etc, Kai, Nsh, Mus
2 Fleets - Tob, Hit
ASAKURA:
7 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas, Biz, Not
4 Armies - Tng, Hok, Kag, Not
3 Fleets - Wab, Nsj, Iwc
HOJO:
1 Supply Center - Izu
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Izu
MORI:
13 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm, San, Iyo, Hiz, Tos, Sat, Bun, Hig, Osu
7 Armies - Awa, Izm, Osu, Hyu, Iwa, Aki, Nag
4 Fleets - Hyc, Sat, Tos, Hig
UESUGI - ELIMINATED 1572
CHOSOKABE - ELIMINATED 1573
SHIMAZU - ELIMINATED 1575[Reply] |
| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1573 - The Wheat - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
From the Twenty-One Precepts of Hojo Soun:
Walk stealthily where still under the arch of heavan.
-----------------------------
The Tsunami waves rise along the coastlines of Japan, as do the currents and eddies on the island itself. The Takeda decimate the Hojo in the north-east and manage to thwart the Asakura plans at the same time. However, the Oda do take their pound of flesh in Noto. Fleets take to the seas to the south and to the north, and in Tosa, the occupying Shimazu retainers tear down the last Chosokabe banners...
My thanks to Mike for coming in to play out the Chosokabe position. It was a difficult role - but valiantly played. =)
Onwards we move, to Winter 1573. All powers have at least one adjustment to make. Deadline will be set for Monday, November 5th (11:59 PM GMT.) As always, please let me know if you spot any adjudiation errors.
And a point of useless trivia.. Up until this adjudication, all subject headers have been coming from the soundtrack of the Last Samurai. Starting with this adjudication, I've spun up a different CD.
Cheers all!
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1573
Next Deadline: Winter 1573 Adjustments Monday, November 5th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1573 HOJO PRESS:
There is no light in tunnel when Buddha's palm if thick with
the skin of Takeda's treachery, may the waters of Mt. Fuji
drown all of Takeda.
FALL 1573 ORDERS:
CHOSOKABE:
F Bungo S-Iyo [BOUNCE with IYO 1:1]
HOJO:
F Izu S A Suruga to S A Mino to So. Shinano [GM NOTE: IZU SUPORT SURUGA]
OK F Pacific Ocean - Kazusa [BOUNCE with KAZ 1:1] F Suruga Bay to Sagami Bay
OK
MORI:
A from Bitchu to Sanuki OK F from Inland Sea to Suo Sea OK F from Iyo supports F from Inland Sea to Suo Sea [CUT by BUS] A from Iwami to Izumo OK F from Tsushima Strait to East China Sea OK F from Kanmon Sea to Tsushima Strait OK [GM NOTE: A Hizen UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
ODA:
A Mino to South Shinano [BOUNCE with HID 2:2] A Ise to Mino [BOUNCE with MIN 1:1] A Mikawa S A Ise to Mino OK A Suruga S A Mino to South Shinano OK F Totomi to Suruga Bay OK F Kii to Osaka Bay OK
SHIMAZU:
F Hyuga Coast - South Pacific Ocean OK F Bungo -Hyuga Coast OK A Chikugo - Bungo OK A Tosa H OK
TAKEDA:
A Mutsu - Hitachi OK F Dewa - Mutsu OK A Kazusa H OK A Sagami S A S. Shinano - Kai OK A Musashi S A Sagami H OK A Hida - S. Shinano [BOUNCE with MIN 2:2] A Etchu S A Hida - S. Shinano OK A S. Shinano - Kai OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Hida OK A Kaga - Noto OK F Sanin Coast - Sea of Japan OK A Tango Hold OK F Wakasa Bay Supports A Kaga - Noto OK A Yamashiro - Omi OK
WINTER 1573 ADJUSTMENTS:
Chosokabe: DISBANDS 1 Hojo: DISBANDS 2 Mori: BUILDS 1 Oda: BUILDS 1 Shimazu: BUILDS 1 Takeda: BUILDS 2 Asakura: BUILDS 1
------------------------------
CHOSOKABE:
1 Supply Centers - Tos GAIN: 0 Armies - LOSE: Tos 1 Fleet - Bus DISBANDS 1
HOJO:
4 Supply Centers - Izu, Kaz, Hit, Mut GAIN: 0 Armies - LOSE: Kaz, Hit, Mut 3 Fleets - Pao, Sab, Izu DISBANDS 2
MORI:
7 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm, San, Iyo GAIN: Hiz 3 Armies - San, Izm, Hiz LOSE: 4 Fleets - Sus, Ecs, Iyo, Tss BUILDS 1
ODA:
6 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii GAIN: Min 4 Armies - Sur, Min, Ise, Mik LOSE: 2 Fleets - Sub, Osb BUILDS 1
SHIMAZU:
4 Supply Centers - Sat, Osu, Hig, Bun GAIN: Tos 2 Armies - Bun, Tos LOSE: 2 Fleets - Hyc, Spo BUILDS 1
TAKEDA:
8 Supply Centers - Kai, Ssh, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh, Sag, Not GAIN: Kaz, Hit, Mut 7 Armies - Kaz, Hit, Etc, Kai, Hid, Mus, Sag LOSE: Not 1 Fleet - Mut BUILDS 2
ASAKURA:
6 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas, Biz GAIN: Not 4 Armies - Omi, Tng, Hid, Not LOSE: 2 Fleets - Wab, Soj BUILDS 1
UESUGI - ELIMINATED 1572
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 1573 ADJUSTMENTS DUE MONDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1573 Deadline Rem... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya guys,
It's time for you to bring those Samurai swords out again, and polish them to that deadly shine. Fall 1573 orders are due in just under 18.5 hours. I currently have 5 sets on hand and need 2 more to make me truly happy. =)
Thanks!
Trout[Reply] |
| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Spring 1573 - A Small... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
My fellow Samurai,
Spring 1573 witnesses the end of the last two Ronin armies, as the Mori and the Shimazu team up to take Hizen and the Oda move back into Mino. Meanwhile, the green armies convoy to Tosa, the Oda and the Asukara shift northwards and the Takeda continue their punishment of the Hojo.
The only other retreat that came out of the Spring orders asides from the Ronin armies dislodgement was the automatic disbanding of the Hojo in Mutsu. The Fall 1573 order deadline will be set for a weeks time, at Thursday November 1st (11:59 PM GMT) please.
Thanks everyone. Please let me know if you spot any adjudication errors.
Cheers!
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Spring 1573
Next Deadline: Fall 1573 Orders Thursday, November 1st (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 1573 ANONYMOUS PRSS:
MAY BUDDHA'S HAND BITCH SLAP
LORD TAKEDA
SPRING 1573 HOJO PRESS:
DIE POND SCUM DIE!!
SPRING 1573 ORDERS:
HOJO:
A Mutsu to Hitachi [BOUNCE with MUS 1:1; DISBANDED by SHI 2:1] F Izu S A Totomi to Suruga OK F Suruga Bay S A Totomi to Suruga OK F Kuman Sea to Pacific Ocean OK
MORI:
A from Chikuzen attack Hizen OK A from Sanuki to Bitchu OK F from Kammon to Tsushima OK F from nagato to Kammon OK F from Inland sea to Suo Sea [BOUNCE with BUS 1:1] [GM NOTE: F IYO UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK
ODA:
A Totomi to Suruga OK F Totomi Sea to Totomi OK A Owari to Mino OK A Ise S A Owari to Mino OK A Mikawa S A Owari to Mino OK F Kii holds OK
SHIMAZU:
A Chikugo S MORI A Chikuzen - Hizen OK A Hyuga - Hyuga Coast - Tosa OK F Hyuga Coast C A Hyuga - Tosa OK F Bungo - Bungo Straights [BOUNCE with BUS 1:1]
TAKEDA:
F Dewa S A Shimotsuke - Mutsu OK A Shimotsuke - Mutsu OK A Musashi - Hitachi [BOUNCE with MUT 1:1] A Noto - Etchu OK A Hida - South Shinano [BOUNCE with SSH 1:1] A Sagami - Kazusa OK A Kai - Sagami OK A S. Shinano - Suruga [DEFEATED by TOT 3:1]
ASAKURA:
A Bizen - Tango OK A Echizen - Kaga OK F Inaba - Sanin Coast OK A Settsu - Yamashiro OK A Tamba - Echizen OK F Tango - Wakasa Bay OK
CHOSOKABE:
F Bungo S-Suo Sea [BOUNCE with INS 1:1]
SUMMER 1573 RETREATS:
Hojo A Hitachi is Automatically Disbanded
Ronin A Hizen is Automatically Disbanded
Ronin A Mino is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
HOJO:
4 Supply Centers - Izu, Kaz, Hit, Mut
0 Armies -
3 Fleets - Pao, Sub, Izu
MORI:
7 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm, San, Iyo
3 Armies - Bit, Iwa, Hiz
4 Fleets - Ins, Kas, Iyo, Nag
ODA:
6 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii
4 Armies - Sur, Min, Ise, Mik
2 Fleets - Tot, Kii
SHIMAZU:
4 Supply Centers - Sat, Osu, Hig, Bun
2 Armies - Chg, Tos
2 Fleets - Bun, Hyc
TAKEDA:
8 Supply Centers - Kai, Ssh, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh, Sag, Not
7 Armies - Kaz, Mut, Etc, Ssh, Hid, Mus, Sag
1 Fleet - Dew
ASAKURA:
6 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas, Biz
4 Armies - Yms, Tng, Ecz, Kag
2 Fleets - Wab, Sac
CHOSOKABE:
1 Supply Centers - Tos
0 Armies -
1 Fleet - Bus
UESUGI - ELIMINATED 1572
NEXT DEADLINE: FALL 1573 ORDERS DUE THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC123 - Welcome to the New Chosokabe - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi folks,
We're back on a roll with Mike Sims helming the Chosokabe. His email addy is mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) My thanks to Mike for stepping up to the plate and into the fire.
We'll reset the Spring 1572 deadline for Friday, October 12th (11:59 PM GMT). Thanks for the patience everyone.
Play on, mighty samurai!
Bushido Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Winter 1571
Next Deadline: Spring 1572 Orders Friday, October 12th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: Mike Sims mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 1572 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, OCTOBER 12TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC123 - Chosokabe Down - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi guys,
First off, apologies for being somewhat behind this weekend. It being Thanksgiving up here has somewhat reduced my connection time. Thank you all for the patience.
However, looks as though I'm going to need to ask for just a little bit more. David of the Chosokabe has been in touch and has let me know that he will have to resign his position. I will seek out a replacement immediately and hopefully the game won't be delayed too long.
Thanks everyone,
Trout[Reply] |
| DC123 - Grace Period Entered - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi everyone,
We're officially entering the grace period for two players for DC123. As so many sets were missing at the deadline last night, I gave everyone an extra day. However I still remain orderless for the Chosokabe and the Shimazu.
The grace period expires at 11:59 PM GMT on Sunday, October 7th. This is in 18.5 hours. David and Jacob, please get in touch with me ASAP.
Thanks,
Trout[Reply] |
| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Spring 1572 Deadline R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Samurai,
Ready your blades and steel your nerves, for the Spring 1572 deadline lies in 17.5 hours from now. Three have shown themselves ready - Five have yet to girt for battle.
Also, if you haven't signed up to the message board yet, what the heck are you waiting for? =)
Thanks all,
Trout[Reply] |
| DC123 - Shade Of THe Bonsai Spring 1571 - A Hard T... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
From The Regulations Of Imagawa Ryoshun:
Just as water will conform to the shape of the vessel that contains it, so will a man follow the good and evil of his companions
Spring 1571 find the Uesugi fall into a holding pattern and predictably find themselves retreating from Kozuke. Meanwhile, the Mori rid the map of another lawless Ronin army in Izumo and the Oda throw a stick into the spokes of the Asakura's attempt to do the same in Mino. The regional conflicts begin to take shape, although the big picture remains far from certain in the Japanese mists.
One retreat required from the Uesugi before we can move into the Fall. The army in Kozuke may retreat to Dewa or Shimotsuke. Patrick, please have your retreat to me by Monday, September 24th (11:59 PM GMT.)
As always, please just let me know if you spot any errors in the adjudication. Cheers everyone!
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Spring 1571
Next Deadline: Summer 1571 Retreats Monday, September 24th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: David Cross bearlytzu(at)gmail.com ([email]bearlytzu(at)gmail.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith samuelsmithf(at)yahoo.com ([email]samuelsmithf(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 1570 TAKEDA PRESS:
the thundering drums
blood flows upon the broad plain
valor triumphant
SPRING 1570 ORDERS:
TAKEDA:
Army Echigo - Kozuke OK Army Musashi S A Echigo - Kozuke OK Army Kai - North Shinano OK Army South Shinano - Etchu OK
UESUGI:
A KOZ Holds [DISLODGED by ECG 2:1] F NOT Holds OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Mino [BOUNCE with MIN 2:2] F Inaba - Hoki OK A Omi Supports A Echizen - Mino OK A Settsu - Harima OK
CHOSOKABE:
F Bungo Strait S A Bungo OK F Tosa M SPO VOID (Provinces Not Adjacent) F Sanuki M Osaka Bay OK
HOJO:
SAGAMI-SAGAMI BAY OK SHIMOSA-HITACHI OK KAZUSA-PACIFIC OCEAN OK
MORI:
A from Iwami to Izumo Attack OK A from Bingo to support A from Iwami attacking Izumo OK F from Chikuzen to Kanmon Straights OK F from Nagato to Suo Sea OK
ODA:
A Yamato S A Yamashiro to hold OK A Owari S A Mino to Hold OK F Mikawa to Shima OK F Totomi Holds OK
SHIMAZU:
A Higo -Chikugo OK F Osumi - Ariake Bay OK F Hyuga - Hyuga Coast OK
SUMMER 1571 RETREATS:
Uesugi A Kozuke may retreat to Dwe, Sht or OTB
Ronin A Izumo is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
TAKEDA:
4 Supply Centers - Kai, Ssh, Ecg, Mus
4 Armies - Mus, Koz, Etc, Nsh
0 Fleets -
UESUGI:
2 Supply Centers - Not, Koz
1 Army - [Koz]
1 Fleet - Not
ASAKURA:
4 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina
3 Armies - Har, Ecz, Omi
1 Fleet - Hok
CHOSOKABE:
3 Supply Centers - Iyo, Tos, San
0 Armies -
3 Fleets - Osb, Bus, Tos
HOJO:
3 Supply Centers - Sag, Izu, Kaz
1 Army - Hit
2 Fleets - Pao, Sab
MORI:
4 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi
2 Armies - Bin, Izm
2 Fleets - Kas, Sus
ODA:
4 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yam, Tot
2 Armies - Yam, Owa
2 Fleets - Tot, Shm
SHIMAZU:
3 Supply Centers - Sat, Osu, Hig
1 Army - Chg
2 Fleets - Hyc, Arb
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 1571 RETREATS DUE MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Winter 1571 - Safe Pas... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
From the Twenty-One Precepts of Hojo Soun:
One should always be genteel in his speaking. A man shows his inmost self by a single word.
Northern Japan heats up as Oda plants two armies and the Asakura raise a force in Echizen. Meanwhile the Takeda put their new centers to use and take to the seas in Echigo while the Hojo launch another fleet in Sagami. The Mori build in Bingo and the Shimazu sharpen their swords in Higo. And as the storm clouds brew, the Uesugi abandon their position in Noto.
Apologies about the slight delay in the winter adjudication. There was a slight problem with email communications. For those of you using Yahoo accounts, further evidence was seen over the weekend that the Yahoo system is highly unstable. Just one of the reasons I switched to Gmail many moons ago. As it now sits, to get a hold of Samuel (Mori) please use his new email address of agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])
Further business: The DC Mods would like us to switch DC-123 entirely to the new message board and system. (Basically this just means that once everyone is signed up to the forum, I will cease copying the Yahoogroup on the turn results.) However, this means that if you haven't already signed up to the DC123 forum, I need to ask you to please do so.
It is fairly easy to do this.
1. Go to www.diplomaticcorp.com
2. Click on 'Message Board'
3. The very first forum is the help forum - 'How To Log On'. Please follow the instructions there that pertain to you.
4. Join the DC123 forum
5. Write a reply to my 'Hey! I found the Message Board' post. Extra credit goes to those who can tell me what movie I quoted. =)
Please let me know if you have any troubles or issues with any of that. Deadline for Spring 1572 will be set for Friday, October 5th (11:59 PM GMT). Thanks all,
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Winter 1571
Next Deadline: Spring 1572 Orders Friday, October 5th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: David Cross bearlytzu(at)gmail.com ([email]bearlytzu(at)gmail.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])
Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
WINTER 1571 ADJUSTMENTS:
SHIMAZU: B A Higo TAKEDA: Build F Echigo, Build A South Shinano UESUGI: disband my fleet in Noto ASAKURA: builds A Echizen CHOSOKABE: No Adjustments HOJO: BUILDS Fleet Sagami MORI: Place Fleet in Bingo ODA: Builds A in Owari, A in Mikawa
------------------------------
SHIMAZU:
4 Supply Centers - Sat, Osu, Hig, Bun
2 Armies - Chg, Hig
2 Fleets - Bun, Hyu
TAKEDA:
6 Supply Centers - Kai, Ssh, Ecg, Mus, Koz, Nsh
5 Armies - Kai, Koz, Kag, Nsh, Ssh
1 Fleet - Ecg
UESUGI:
1 Supply Center - Not
1 Army - Dew
0 Fleets -
ASAKURA:
5 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina, Yas
4 Armies - Set, Tng, Yas, Ecz
1 Fleet - Hok
CHOSOKABE:
3 Supply Centers - Iyo, Tos, San
0 Armies -
3 Fleets - Osb, Hyc, Tob
HOJO:
4 Supply Centers - Sag, Izu, Kaz, Hit
1 Army - Hit
3 Fleets - Kus, Pao, Sag
MORI:
5 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi, Izm
2 Armies - Bit, Izm
3 Fleets - Kas, Sus, Bin
ODA:
6 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot, Ise, Kii
4 Armies - Yat, Ise, Owa, Mik
2 Fleets - Tos, Kii
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 1572 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, OCTOBER 5TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 1571 - Idyll's En... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
From the Message of Master Gokurakuji
If one will fix his heart in such a way and assist the world and its people, he will have the devotion of the men who see and hear of him
Tough times continue for the Uesugi as the Hojo bounce them from Mutsu, slight confusion reigns in the Mori ranks and its high times in the eastern waters as no less than four factions compete for the waters bordering the Pacific.
No retreats are required after the Fall, although we do say goodbye to two more Ronin armies in Yamashiro and Bungo. The Winter 1571 adjustment deadline will be set for Sunday, September 30th (11:59 PM GMT).
Fight on, mighty warriors. Send me an arrow if you spot any adjudication errors.
Cheers,
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Fall 1571
Next Deadline: Winter 1571 Adjustments Sunday, September 30th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: David Cross bearlytzu(at)gmail.com ([email]bearlytzu(at)gmail.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith samuelsmithf(at)yahoo.com ([email]samuelsmithf(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
FALL 1570 TAKEDA PRESS:
the cherry blossom
floats on tender spring breezes
rests on blood-soaked stones
FALL 1570 ORDERS:
SHIMAZU:
F Ariake Bay - Hyuga OK F Hyuga Coast - Bungo OK A Chikugo S F Hyuga Coast - Bungo OK
TAKEDA:
A Kozuke - Echigo [BOUNCE with NSH 1:1] A North Shinano - Echigo [BOUNCE with KOZ 1:1] A Etchu - Kaga OK A Musashi - Kai OK
UESUGI:
A Dewa-Mutsa [BOUNCE with HIT 1:1] F Noto Holds OK
ASAKURA:
F Hoki Hold OK A Omi - Yamashiro OK A Settsu Supports A Omi - Yamashiro OK A Tango - Bizen [BOUNCE with OSB 1:1]
CHOSOKABE:
F Bungo Straits - Hyuga Coast OK F Tosa - Tosa Bay OK F Osaka Bay - Bizen [BOUNCE with TNG 1:1]
HOJO:
A Hitachi - Mutsu [BOUNCE with DEW 1:1] F Pacific Ocean - Kumano Sea OK F Sagami Bay - Pacific Ocean OK
MORI:
Army from Bingo to Bitchu OK Fleet from Bitchu to Iyo VOID (No Such Unit) [GM NOTE: F KANMON STRAITS UNORDERED- HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: F SUO SEA UNORDERED - HOLDS] OK [GM NOTE: A IZUMO UNOREDERED - HOLDS] OK
ODA:
A Owari to Ise OK F Totomi to Totomi Sea OK F Shima to Kii OK A Yamashiro S F Shima to Kii OK
EARLY WINTER 1571 RETREATS:
Ronin A Bungo is Automatically Disbanded
Ronin A Yamashiro is Automatically Disbanded
WINTER 1571 ADJUSTMENTS:
SHIMAZU: BUILDS 1 TAKEDA: BUILDS 2 UESUGI: DISBANDS 1 ASAKURA: BUILDS 1 CHOSOKABE: No Adjustments HOJO: BUILDS 1 MORI: BUILDS 1 ODA: BUILDS 2
------------------------------
SHIMAZU:
3 Supply Centers - Sat, Osu, Hig GAIN: BUN 1 Army - Chg LOSE: 2 Fleets - Bun, Hyu BUILDS 1
TAKEDA:
4 Supply Centers - Kai, Ssh, Ecg, Mus GAIN: Koz, Nsh 4 Armies - Kai, Koz, Kag, Nsh LOSE: 0 Fleets - BUILDS 2
UESUGI:
2 Supply Centers - Not, Koz GAIN: 1 Army - Dew LOSE: Koz 1 Fleet - Not DISBANDS 1
ASAKURA:
4 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina GAIN: Yas 3 Armies - Set, Tng, Yas LOSE: 1 Fleet - Hok BUILDS 1
CHOSOKABE:
3 Supply Centers - Iyo, Tos, San GAIN: 0 Armies - LOSE: 3 Fleets - Osb, Hyc, Tob
HOJO:
3 Supply Centers - Sag, Izu, Kaz GAIN: Hit 1 Army - Hit LOSE: 2 Fleets - Kus, Pao BUILDS 1
MORI:
4 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi GAIN: Izm 2 Armies - Bin, Izm LOSE: 2 Fleets - Kas, Sus BUILDS 1
ODA:
4 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yat, Tot GAIN: Ise, Kii 2 Armies - Yat, Ise LOSE: 2 Fleets - Tos, Kii BUILDS 2
NEXT DEADLINE: WINTER 1571 ORDERS DUE SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC123 - Shade Of The Bonsai - Fall 171 Deadline Re... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi folks,
The katana strikes Fall 1571 in approximately 28 hours. I have many sets in, but not nearly all of them.
Cheers,
Trout[Reply] |
| DC123 - Shade Of The Bonsai Summer 1571 - To Know... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
From the writing of Wu Tsu:
When the world is at peace, a gentleman keeps his sword at his side
The Uesugi take a step back to Dewa and regroup while we move on to Fall 1571. With the assumption that everyone has spent the weekend diploming, I'd like to continue our tradition of Thursday deadlines - setting Fall 1571 for Thursday, September 27th (11:59 PM GMT). This is only several days, however, so if anyone feels they need more time please just let me know.
Cheers all,
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Summer 1571
Next Deadline: Fall 1571 Orders Thursday, September 27th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: David Cross bearlytzu(at)gmail.com ([email]bearlytzu(at)gmail.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith samuelsmithf(at)yahoo.com ([email]samuelsmithf(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
SUMMER 1571 RETREATS:
Uesugi A Kozuke retreats to Dewa
Ronin A Izumo is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
TAKEDA:
4 Supply Centers - Kai, Ssh, Ecg, Mus
4 Armies - Mus, Koz, Etc, Nsh
0 Fleets -
UESUGI:
2 Supply Centers - Not, Koz
1 Army - Dew
1 Fleet - Not
ASAKURA:
4 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina
3 Armies - Set, Tng, Omi
1 Fleet - Hok
CHOSOKABE:
3 Supply Centers - Iyo, Tos, San
0 Armies -
3 Fleets - Osb, Bus, Tos
HOJO:
3 Supply Centers - Sag, Izu, Kaz
1 Army - Hit
2 Fleets - Pao, Sab
MORI:
4 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi
2 Armies - Bin, Izm
2 Fleets - Kas, Sus
ODA:
4 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yam, Tot
2 Armies - Yam, Owa
2 Fleets - Tot, Shm
SHIMAZU:
3 Supply Centers - Sat, Osu, Hig
1 Army - Chg
2 Fleets - Hyc, Arb[Reply] |
| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Spring 1571 Corrected - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi all,
Well, with embarrassment I have to admit that I missed an Asakura order revision. The army in Echizen is ordered to Tango, and instead of a Mino attack it was an attempt on Yamashiro which, due to the odious Oda, meets the same fate.
Corrected adjudication is below. My apologies for any confusion - totally my bad. Thanks to Joshua for pointing out my lapse.
Cheers,
Trout
GAME NUMBER Shade Of The Bonsai A Sengoku Game Game Started: Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn: Spring 1571
Next Deadline: Summer 1571 Retreats Monday, September 24th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage: Joshua Gottesman joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email]) Chosokabe Motochika: David Cross bearlytzu(at)gmail.com ([email]bearlytzu(at)gmail.com[/email]) Hojo Ujimasu: Felix Kamchung felixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email]) Mori Motonari: Samuel Smith samuelsmithf(at)yahoo.com ([email]samuelsmithf(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Oda Nobunaga: Bruce Quinn coebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Shimazu Yoshihisa: Jacob Traegar jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email]) Takeda Shingen: Nathan Deily ndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email]) Uesugi Kenshin: Patrick Pottorff happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM: Former Trout former.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email]) Variant Info http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
CURRENT SEASON:
SPRING 1570 TAKEDA PRESS:
the thundering drums
blood flows upon the broad plain
valor triumphant
SPRING 1570 ORDERS:
TAKEDA:
Army Echigo - Kozuke OK Army Musashi S A Echigo - Kozuke OK Army Kai - North Shinano OK Army South Shinano - Etchu OK
UESUGI:
A KOZ Holds [DISLODGED by ECG 2:1] F NOT Holds OK
ASAKURA:
A Echizen - Tango OK F Inaba - Hoki OK A Omi Supports A Settsu - Yamashiro OK A Settsu - Yamashiro [BOUNCE with YMS 2:2]
CHOSOKABE:
F Bungo Strait S A Bungo OK F Tosa M SPO VOID (Provinces Not Adjacent) F Sanuki M Osaka Bay OK
HOJO:
SAGAMI-SAGAMI BAY OK SHIMOSA-HITACHI OK KAZUSA-PACIFIC OCEAN OK
MORI:
A from Iwami to Izumo Attack OK A from Bingo to support A from Iwami attacking Izumo OK F from Chikuzen to Kanmon Straights OK F from Nagato to Suo Sea OK
ODA:
A Yamato S A Yamashiro to hold OK A Owari S A Mino to Hold OK F Mikawa to Shima OK F Totomi Holds OK
SHIMAZU:
A Higo -Chikugo OK F Osumi - Ariake Bay OK F Hyuga - Hyuga Coast OK
SUMMER 1571 RETREATS:
Uesugi A Kozuke may retreat to Dwe, Sht or OTB
Ronin A Izumo is Automatically Disbanded
------------------------------
TAKEDA:
4 Supply Centers - Kai, Ssh, Ecg, Mus
4 Armies - Mus, Koz, Etc, Nsh
0 Fleets -
UESUGI:
2 Supply Centers - Not, Koz
1 Army - [Koz]
1 Fleet - Not
ASAKURA:
4 Supply Centers - Ecz, Omi, Set, Ina
3 Armies - Set, Tng, Omi
1 Fleet - Hok
CHOSOKABE:
3 Supply Centers - Iyo, Tos, San
0 Armies -
3 Fleets - Osb, Bus, Tos
HOJO:
3 Supply Centers - Sag, Izu, Kaz
1 Army - Hit
2 Fleets - Pao, Sab
MORI:
4 Supply Centers - Nag, Iwa, Bin, Chi
2 Armies - Bin, Izm
2 Fleets - Kas, Sus
ODA:
4 Supply Centers - Owa, Mik, Yam, Tot
2 Armies - Yam, Owa
2 Fleets - Tot, Shm
SHIMAZU:
3 Supply Centers - Sat, Osu, Hig
1 Army - Chg
2 Fleets - Hyc, Arb
NEXT DEADLINE: SUMMER 1571 RETREATS DUE MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH (11:59 PM GMT)!![Reply] |
| DC123 - SOB - Uesugi Replacement Found - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Hi folks,
I'd like to retract the call for a replacement Uesugi leader in DC123 - Shade Of The Bonsai. Patrick got word and orders to me yesterday, and after mulling it over I decided to allow him to remain in the game. My apologies to those who have shown interest in the position, and my regrets for the confusion caused to those involved in the game.
Thanks everyone,
Trout[Reply] |
| DC123 - Welcome to the New Chosokabe - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
MY GOD
NOT
SIMS
WHY
DO YOU
HAVE
TO CHOOSE
SIMS???
AS CHOKO
GOD
KILL ME
NOW.
PS....WELCOME SIMSTER
F
On Oct 9, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Former Trout wrote:
Hi folks,
We're back on a roll with Mike Sims helming the Chosokabe. His email addy is mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) My thanks to Mike for stepping up to the plate and into the fire.
We'll reset the Spring 1572 deadline for Friday, October 12th (11:59 PM GMT). Thanks for the patience everyone.
Play on, mighty samurai!
Bushido Trout
GAME NUMBERShade Of The BonsaiA Sengoku GameGame Started:Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn:Winter 1571
Next Deadline:Spring 1572 OrdersFriday, October 12th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage:Joshua Gottesmanjoshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email])Chosokabe Motochika:Mike Simsmike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])Hojo Ujimasu:Felix Kamchungfelixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email])Mori Motonari:Samuel Smithagenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])Oda Nobunaga:Bruce Quinncoebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])Shimazu Yoshihisa:Jacob Traegarjacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email])Takeda Shingen:Nathan Deilyndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])Uesugi Kenshin atrick Pottorffhappyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM:Former Troutformer.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])Variant Infohttp://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 1572 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, OCTOBER 12TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC123 - Welcome to the New Chosokabe - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
MY GOD
NOT
SIMS
WHY
DO YOU
HAVE
TO CHOOSE
SIMS???
AS CHOKO
GOD
KILL ME
NOW.
PS....WELCOME SIMSTER
F
On Oct 9, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Former Trout wrote:
Hi folks,
We're back on a roll with Mike Sims helming the Chosokabe. His email addy is mike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email]) My thanks to Mike for stepping up to the plate and into the fire.
We'll reset the Spring 1572 deadline for Friday, October 12th (11:59 PM GMT). Thanks for the patience everyone.
Play on, mighty samurai!
Bushido Trout
GAME NUMBERShade Of The BonsaiA Sengoku GameGame Started:Thursday, August 30th
Current Turn:Winter 1571
Next Deadline:Spring 1572 OrdersFriday, October 12th (11:59 PM GMT)
The Honorable Players
Asakura Yoshikage:Joshua Gottesmanjoshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com ([email]joshua.gottesman(at)gmail.com[/email])Chosokabe Motochika:Mike Simsmike(at)southwall.com ([email]mike(at)southwall.com[/email])Hojo Ujimasu:Felix Kamchungfelixkamchung(at)mac.com ([email]felixkamchung(at)mac.com[/email])Mori Motonari:Samuel Smithagenbite.lee(at)gmail.com ([email]agenbite.lee(at)gmail.com[/email])Oda Nobunaga:Bruce Quinncoebq(at)yahoo.com ([email]coebq(at)yahoo.com[/email])Shimazu Yoshihisa:Jacob Traegarjacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au ([email]jacob.traeger(at)student.adelaide.edu.au[/email])Takeda Shingen:Nathan Deilyndeily(at)yahoo.com ([email]ndeily(at)yahoo.com[/email])Uesugi Kenshinatrick Pottorffhappyguy99993(at)yahoo.com ([email]happyguy99993(at)yahoo.com[/email])
Humble GM:Former Troutformer.trout(at)gmail.com ([email]former.trout(at)gmail.com[/email])Variant Infohttp://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/s/sengoku.htm
NEXT DEADLINE: SPRING 1572 ORDERS DUE FRIDAY, OCTOBER 12TH (11:59 PM GMT)!!
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| DC123 Shade Of The Bonsai - Spring 1573 Deadline R... - test_gm (Sep 13, 2007, 12:00 am) |
Heya Ginsu Warriors,
Just a reminder to bring out your slicer and dicers. Deadline for Spring 1573 orders is in just under 20.5 hours. I currently have four sets in hand, but could use another three for the full set. If you don't have an order confirmation from me, please resend.
Thanks all!
Trout[Reply] |
