Andrew you'd love that wouldnt you.

It's the perfect alibi to speak so profoundly about how the game is drawn, all the while you're gaining ground in just about every ocean. This turn is no exception. Propose it again man, I'll vote for it, like I have every turn. I'm in it for the survival here, and as I told the others, I'll accept a PUBLIC 4-way draw if you and everyone else so wanted to do so. I'm guessing there would be a holdout to such a procedure, and it wouldn't be me. Perhaps it would be someone w a little more to gain, like maybe the player who just gained multiple critical zones in the Atlantic and Indian Oceans. Or maybe the player that's about to gain JAK and DES, to grow by two! Wait they're the same person...

But you keep selling your story, I'm sure someone will buy it!

I will personally re-propose the 4-way draw of the 4 big players, and offer to you all to vote on it publicly, with the public votes being binding. Now if you all want it, then speak up and take it, else we see who doesn't!

And Andrew, use some common sense here... what would I (or any of the small guys) POSSIBLY stand to gain by voting down a draw in this situation... with between 1 and 3 centers, it's just not lucrative to expect to come back and score better than a survival. It's obviously in my best interests to not waste time on a game if I can end it, it would be dumb to vote it down. Same thing with blue and yellow.

And if it's SERIOUSLY not you Andrew (which dont bother denying, it doesnt matter) then SOMEONE wants better than a draw out of this. So let's go w the plan above and see who objects. Yes?
-mike



From: Diplomacy Gamemaster [mailto:worldwidegm(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Mon 4/27/2009 2:34 PM
To: Andrew Tanner; Frank Bielschowsky; Hamish Williams; Ian Bond; Ian Shaw; Michael Sims; Scott Hickey
Cc: dc190; Steve Lytton
Subject: DC190 - Spring 2013


Press: SAm-All - So, do we have to start whacking the small guys to be sure they aren't (even inadvertently) killing the draw? I want the draw, Mexico wants the draw, Russia wants the draw, and I bet Persia does as well. Its in all our best interests. That leaves someone stirring up trouble. Perhaps we should all surround the remaining nations and make it in their best interest to support a draw as well?

Here are your moves for the spring of 2013. The battle of Africa rages on and, well, not much else to my eyes. But maybe there is more than meets the eye? We have one retreat to resolve and then I'll be away until Friday, May 8.

Mexico:
A Paris - Rome (*fails*)
A Tombouctou - Algeria (*dislodged*)
A Ouagadougou - Niamey (*fails*)
F Iberia Supports A Florida - Morocco
F Canary Sea Convoys A Florida - Morocco
F Atlantic Ocean Convoys A Florida - Morocco
F Gulf of St. Lawrence - Halifax (*bounce*)
F Quebec - Halifax (*bounce*)
F Bermuda Supports F Atlantic Ocean
A Florida - Morocco
F Arizona - Pacific Ocean
F Pacific Ocean - Alaska
F Alaska - Nunavut
A Nunavut - Vancouver
F Revillagigedo Sea - Fijian Sea
F Jayapura - Philippines Sea
F Arafura Sea Supports F Cocos Sea - Jakarta (*void*)
F Darwin Holds

South America:
A Pretoria - Zambezi
A Maputo Supports A Pretoria - Zambezi
F Nosy Barrens - Zanzibar Sea (*fails*)
F Angola - Congo (*fails*)
F Falkland Sea - Sandwich Sea
F Dakar - Cape Verde Sea
F Argentina - Falkland Sea
F Cape of Good Hope - Cocos Sea
F Great Australian Bight Supports F Cape of Good Hope - Cocos Sea
F Cocos Sea - Indian Ocean
F South China Sea - Siam (*fails*)
F Bay of Bengal Supports F Cocos Sea - Indian Ocean
F Perth Supports F Cape of Good Hope - Cocos Sea

Russia:
F Beaufort Sea Supports F Bering Sea
F Labrador Sea Supports F English Channel
F English Channel Supports F Labrador Sea
A London Holds
A Holland Supports A Berlin
A Berlin Supports A Holland
F Arctic Ocean Supports F Labrador Sea
A Irkutsk - Vladivostok (*bounce*)
A Ulaanbaatar - Vladivostok (*bounce*)
A Beijing Holds
F Honshu Supports F East China Sea
F East China Sea Supports F Taiwan
F Taiwan Supports F East China Sea

West Africa:
F Lagos - Ougadougou (*fails*)
A Morocco - Tombouctou
A Algeria Supports A Morocco - Tombouctou

Persia:
A N'Djamena - Niamey
F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
F Tunisia Supports F Ionian Sea - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Rome - Paris (*fails*)
F Zagreb - Ionian Sea
A Libya Supports A N'Djamena - Niamey
A Tehran - Somalia
F Arabian Sea Convoys A Tehran - Somalia
A Baghdad - Tehran
A Mumbai - Delhi
F Pakistan - Mumbai
A Shanghai Supports A Hong Kong
A Hong Kong Supports A Shanghai
A Nairobi Supports A Dar es Salaam
A Congo Supports A Dar es Salaam
A Dar es Salaam Supports A Congo
F Zanzibar Sea Supports A Dar es Salaam (*cut*)

China:
F Indian Ocean - Antananarivo

Oceania:
F Siam Supports F Jakarta (*cut*)
F Jakarta Supports F Siam
F Manila Holds

Retreats:
Mexico's A Tombouctou may retreat to Dakar or OTB.

Next Deadline:
Scott, if you can get your retreat in tomorrow, I'll be able to get it out. But a better alternative is if you just replay all with your retreat so everyone can know about it whether I have time to get to it or not. So then, let's have the Fall 2013 orders due Saturday, May 9, and I'll adjudicate when I get back.