matt.

I thought Mike was completely out of line with his temper tantrum and
resignation, nothing short of cheating justifies that and he that's
not why he resigned...

I have to say in my 25 years of pbm, pbem and ftf play, I've been in a
lot of games where players did what I thought were moves that were not
in their best interest or even in the interest of stopping someone
from winning and I have NEVER resigned due to other people refusing to
do what I wanted or not pitching to help stop the leader...

That's part of the game--its DIPLOMACY, e.g. you suppose to convince
people to do what you want, to leave because people won't do what you
want is contrary to the spirit of the game...and I don't want to play
with anyone who is going to resign because people won't do what they
want...

and sorry, I think having my integrity question is a BIG thing and is
worth arguing about...he basically accused me of throwing the game to
France because I wouldn't help him...which was not true and when i
denied he basically called me a liar...which i am in the game but not
outside of the game...

i also agree i would play the game differently but then that's true of
almost any variant I play for the first time (in fact often true of
variants i've played several times, that's the mark of a good variant
in my opinion...)

jack

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Matt Kremer <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu
<mailto:matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu>> wrote:

Hey guys,

First off, congrats to Chris; at least with respect to me he
played the perfect balance of helping me and then turning on me
right before I would have been ready to fend him off. As for the
rest of this game, I must admit that this was one of the most
annoying games of which I have been a part. The initial Germany's
tantrum was obviously a big part of this, but I also thought that
other people didn't help the situation by blowing the situation up
into a huge argument. And, looking back at the game as a whole,
even though I don't approve of Mike's actions I actually agree
with some of the things he was saying strategically, and I would
play this variant very very differently were I to play it again.

Matt
Russia

Packrat wrote:

First, and foremost - congratulations to Chris Morse for his
solo with 18 centers!!

Second - Thank you to ALL of you who stuck it out to the very
end.

The final orders:

Austria:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania
A Greece Hold
A Rumania Supports A Vienna - Budapest
A Sevastopol Supports A Rumania
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Vienna
A Tyrolia - Vienna
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
A Venice - Tyrolia
A Vienna - Budapest

France:
A Brest - Gascony
A Marseilles - Spain (*Dislodged*)
A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)

Germany:
A Bohemia Supports A Galicia
A Burgundy - Paris (*Fails*)
F English Channel Supports A Picardy - Brest
A Galicia, no move received
A Gascony - Marseilles
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Moscow Supports A Ukraine
A Munich Supports A Bohemia
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Picardy - Brest
A Silesia Supports A Bohemia
A Spain Supports A Gascony - Marseilles
A Ukraine Supports A Galicia
A Wales Hold
A Warsaw Supports A Galicia

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea Hold
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
F Naples Supports A Tuscany - Rome
A Tuscany - Rome

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Sevastopol



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