Gentlemen:

Would any of you be interested in playing another round of shift left? Or perhaps
Shift Right? This would be a Vegas-free game. I would, of course, GM it.


From: Jack McHugh <jwmchughjr(at)gmail.com>
To: Matt Kremer <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu>
Cc: Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>; the_master642(at)yahoo.com; The White Wolf <cloudhurler77(at)yahoo.com>; Stephen Worthy <stephen(at)worthy1.fsnet.co.uk>; g_mod23(at)hotmail.com; scaponig(at)yahoo.com; stephenworthy(at)rocketmail.com; camorse22(at)yahoo.com; stevelytton(at)gmail.com; dc218(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:49:05 AM
Subject: Re: DC 218 SHIFT LEFT:GERMAN SOLO - FALL 1914

matt,

i understand..i tried to settle it quickly and i offered to resign but scott didn't feel that was necessary and i didn't want to mess the game up anymore so i stayed but that's part of the reason i didn't talk as much...it kind of left me feeling "what's the point?" after a player wanted me tossed from the game and then resigned when i wasn't...its a shame because i think this is a good variant and i would like to play it again...

jack

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Matt Kremer <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email])> wrote:

Jack (and others),

Don't read more into my comments than is there. I am not accusing anyone other than Mike of wrongdoing; I just think it might have been settled more quickly and peacefully than it was, but I also understand that Mike's accusations caused heated emotions, and I don't blame you for this. And I agree with all your comments about the game and how and why we play it. All I wanted to make clear in my EOG was that the huge argument turned me off from the game a bit and for some reason I could not fully bring my heart back into it after that, and I think this somewhat contributed to the ease with which Chris played me.

Matt

Jack McHugh wrote:
[quote:2616a3a193] matt.

I thought Mike was completely out of line with his temper tantrum and resignation, nothing short of cheating justifies that and he that's not why he resigned...

I have to say in my 25 years of pbm, pbem and ftf play, I've been in a lot of games where players did what I thought were moves that were not in their best interest or even in the interest of stopping someone from winning and I have NEVER resigned due to other people refusing to do what I wanted or not pitching to help stop the leader...

That's part of the game--its DIPLOMACY, e.g. you suppose to convince people to do what you want, to leave because people won't do what you want is contrary to the spirit of the game...and I don't want to play with anyone who is going to resign because people won't do what they want...

and sorry, I think having my integrity question is a BIG thing and is worth arguing about...he basically accused me of throwing the game to France because I wouldn't help him...which was not true and when i denied he basically called me a liar...which i am in the game but not outside of the game...

i also agree i would play the game differently but then that's true of almost any variant I play for the first time (in fact often true of variants i've played several times, that's the mark of a good variant in my opinion...)

jack



On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Matt Kremer <matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email]) <mailto:matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu ([email]matthew.kremer(at)yale.edu[/email])>> wrote:

Hey guys,

First off, congrats to Chris; at least with respect to me he
played the perfect balance of helping me and then turning on me
right before I would have been ready to fend him off. As for the
rest of this game, I must admit that this was one of the most
annoying games of which I have been a part. The initial Germany's
tantrum was obviously a big part of this, but I also thought that
other people didn't help the situation by blowing the situation up
into a huge argument. And, looking back at the game as a whole,
even though I don't approve of Mike's actions I actually agree
with some of the things he was saying strategically, and I would
play this variant very very differently were I to play it again.

Matt
Russia

Packrat wrote:

First, and foremost - congratulations to Chris Morse for his
solo with 18 centers!!

Second - Thank you to ALL of you who stuck it out to the very
end.

The final orders:

Austria:
F Aegean Sea - Constantinople
A Armenia Supports A Sevastopol
A Bulgaria Supports A Rumania
A Greece Hold
A Rumania Supports A Vienna - Budapest
A Sevastopol Supports A Rumania
A Trieste Supports A Tyrolia - Vienna
A Tyrolia - Vienna
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Gulf of Lyon
A Venice - Tyrolia
A Vienna - Budapest

France:
A Brest - Gascony
A Marseilles - Spain (*Dislodged*)
A Paris - Burgundy (*Fails*)

Germany:
A Bohemia Supports A Galicia
A Burgundy - Paris (*Fails*)
F English Channel Supports A Picardy - Brest
A Galicia, no move received
A Gascony - Marseilles
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean - Portugal
A Moscow Supports A Ukraine
A Munich Supports A Bohemia
F North Atlantic Ocean - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Picardy - Brest
A Silesia Supports A Bohemia
A Spain Supports A Gascony - Marseilles
A Ukraine Supports A Galicia
A Wales Hold
A Warsaw Supports A Galicia

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea Hold
F Ionian Sea - Tunis
F Naples Supports A Tuscany - Rome
A Tuscany - Rome

Turkey:
F Black Sea Supports A Sevastopol



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