I agree - hard if the non-order for a Hol was accidental, but that is the norm in all the DC games I've played. wasn't the way I played face to face when I started out, but it is the usual practice here and on Dip2000.
Nigs

Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 04:11:14 -0700
From: brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DC317; Fall and Autumn 1906 Results
To: douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com; dipknight(at)gmail.com
CC: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com



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If army Holland was not ordered - AT ALL - then the unit holds.  Allowing
it as an "understood" order by virtue of there being a convoy order would be
a HUGE error on the part of ANY GM. 

Darryl DID recognize the CONVOY order as is evidenced by the dashed lines
if you back up RP and look.  Any good GM would not assume F NTH convoys
HOL to LON.  Sure, that would obviously be the intent, but that's the sort of
misorder folks do all the time.  The rules state that any UNIT not ordered holds.

Now, if you DID order Holland to London that's another story.

If you want to NMR, knock yourself out.

From: Douglas Fresh <douglasefresh(at)googlemail.com>
To: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>
Cc: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 4:27:10 AM
Subject: Re: DC317; Fall and Autumn 1906 Results


Hi folks,

I understand that Darryl has decided not to recognise my Convoy order. I have asked for a second opinion. As a GM I tend to adjudicate on a common sense basis where possible and I do not think there is any confusion in the orders I submitted. I shall not submit any further orders in this game until I hear from Mike. Hope thats ok - I do not mean to attempt to undermine GM rule, I have plenty of respect for Darryl and the job he is doing - I just do not agree with this instance of it.


Best
D

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com> wrote:

GM's remarks:
 
Still have not received any communications from Turkey; though, again, I don't think it would have made any difference.  Turkey is eliminated.

 
Both retreats only had one viable option on the board, so they were performed automatically.  Doug, Greg, if either of you would have preferred that your unit was retreated OTB, please let me know with the Build/Disband Orders.

 
The Players:
Austria        Eliminated Winter 1904

England       Eliminated Winter 1905

France         packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com

Germany     Douglas_E_Fresh      Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com

Italy            evapollo88                 Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com

Russia         Nigs                          Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com

Turkey        Eliminated Winter 1906

 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904

 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905

 
France:
   F bel Hold
   A boh - trl
   A bur - mar (*Fails*)
   F eng - bre
   F iri Supports F nao - mao
   F nao - mao
   F nwg - nao
   A pic - par
 
Germany:
   F edi Supports F nth
   A hol, no move received
   A kie - den
   A mun Supports A boh - trl
   F nth Convoys A hol - lon (*Void*)
   A nwy Hold
   A pru - sil (*Fails*)
   A sil - mun (*Fails*)
   F stp(sc) Hold (*Dislodged*)
 
Italy:
   F aeg - smy (*Bounce*)
   F con - smy (*Dislodged*)
   F lyo Supports A pie - mar
   A pie - mar
   A spa - por
   A tri - trl (*Bounce*)
   A vie - trl (*Bounce*)
   F wes - spa(sc)
 
Russia:
   F ank - con
   A bul Supports F ank - con
   A fin Supports A mos - stp
   A gal - bud
   A lvn Supports A mos - stp
   A mos - stp
   A ukr - rum
 
Turkey:
   A syr, no move received
 
Retreats:
   Germany: F stp(sc) - bot
   Italy: F con - bla
 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904

 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (5) bel, bre, lvp, lon, par.

   Units: F bel, F bre, A bur, F iri, F mao, F nao, A par, A trl

   Build/Disband:  -3

 
Germany:
   Centers (: ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun, nwy, swe.

   Units: A den, F edi, F bot, A hol, A mun, F nth, A nwy, A pru, A sil

   Build/Disbands: -1
 
Italy:
   Centers (11) gre, mar, nap, por, rom, smy, spa, tri, tun, ven, vie.

   Units: F aeg, F bla, F lyo, A mar, A por, F spa(sc), A tri, A vie

   Build/Disband:  +3

 
Russia:
   Centers (10) ank, bud, bul, con, mos, rum, ser, sev, stp, war.

   Units: A bud, A bul, F con, A fin, A lvn, A rum, A stp

   Build/Disband:  +3

 
Turkey:
Eliminated Winter 1906
 
Deadline:
1906 Winter Orders: Friday; May 7, 24:00 Hrs GMT

 
Maps of the Orders, Retreats, and Results/Supply Recount; and the dpy file are attached for your use.



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