"HA".  Right.
 
Mike, I'm sure you understand the voting process.  Whatever you say here (whatever I say) clealry doesn't matter, thus I came up w a way to prove you would not go for a DIAS if one were presented in a way that the voting could be taken out of the picture.
 
-mike
 



From: offdisc(at)gmail.com on behalf of Mike Hoffman
Sent: Thu 6/10/2010 12:34 PM
To: Michael Sims
Cc: Garry Bledsoe; sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com; mvpenner(at)yahoo.com; suzanne castagne; Dirkfell Warren; dc224
Subject: Re: dc224 F20 - Twenty Strong and Counting


And I will reiterate: if you had ever come up with a plan that didn't involve me allowing every other country to run rampant across my home centers, I'd have approved it.  You didn't -- you came up with a plan that left both Suzanne and I vulnerable to your good graces and trusting you on your word. HA!

So, I did what I said I would: I moved Pwyll over to GGL and never attack Raz again.  My line is drawn, and Pwyll is safe.
On the other hand, you also did exactly what you said you would do: you attacked Skel and now sit there and Uhl. 

Are we just as safe now as we would have been if I had pulled Pwyll?  NO.... but we're safer.  Everyone is.  So why can't we force that same draw you talked about? 

I don't see how it can "force" a draw, and I never did.  That's why I suggested just voting YES right then and there.  Same as I'm suggesting right now. 

Mike
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net> wrote:




Mike, go back and read it, this is a waste of time.  Email, titled "an idea".  You replied something along the lines of "what kind of plan is that" even tho it would have involved me *not* taking Suzanne's last home center, you not taking more from the Faeries, and us forcing a DIAS thru in 2 years flat.  2 more turns now and we'd be there if you had wanted it, and nothing could have prevented it.
 
You scoffed it away and went back to pointing fingers.
-mike




From: offdisc(at)gmail.com on behalf of Mike Hoffman
Sent: Thu 6/10/2010 11:43 AM
To: Michael Sims
Cc: Garry Bledsoe; sandiegosmith(at)hotmail.com; mvpenner(at)yahoo.com; suzanne castagne; Dirkfell Warren; dc224



Subject: Re: dc224 F20 - Twenty Strong and Counting





Still trying to recall when I dismissed this proposed DIAS you suggested.  I seem to recall something about giving up GGL, letting Faerie fleets sail down into RoD, give up any claims to the Underworld, and possibly throw in my first-born child.  Not sure what surprised you when I said that wasn't so much a plan for a DIAS but a plan for the "death of the Ogres".

Anyway, I never suggested that your "advance" had anything to do with the center you gained.  It didn't.  But an unexpected attack on the High Seas?  Now that *IS* aggressive.

I also never asked you to stab either the Trolls or the Faeries --- at least not this time.   I said I was perfectly happy with the current 6-way, but if you came up with a plan for a 2-way or 3-way that didn't involve me inviting everyone to tea in my home centers, I'd be willing to listen.  You don't want to give away your strategies, so no plan will be made. 

So just Vote YES already and let's put this game into the history books.

Mike
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson




On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.net> wrote:




Right, it wouldn't be Storytime w/o the ceremonial throwing up of arms by Hoffman.
 
I love your arguments Mike.  Ogres take 2 centers and it's "securing their lines".  Rogues take one center publicly stated, and it's "advanced".
 
What would you have me do?  Do you want everyone to order Holds?  I'm going to order my units, and you are going to order yours. 
 
Oh yeah, and this message you post?  It comes 10 minutes after you write me 4 paragraphs privately going over how you want me to suggest moves to stab the Trolls and Faeries and get a 2-way.  Offer the world, give nothing, get someone to stab somoene.  It is a good strategy Mike, tho now it's just boring and repetitive.
 

Once you refused the DIAS I suggested that we could have actually forced thru, I think this whole strategy of yours lost its impact.
 
-mike
 
    



From: offdisc(at)gmail.com on behalf of Mike Hoffman
Sent: Thu 6/10/2010 12:12 AM
To: Garry Bledsoe
Subject: Re: dc224 F20 - Twenty Strong and Counting



Interesting!  Faeries basically hold, Pirates *actually* hold, Trolls secure their line but get hit, Undead retreats behind Ogre lines, and Ogres secure their lines.  Who advanced this turn???  I wonder who's voting NO to the DIAS!
(Oh, and Suzanne gave me full permission to take Caer)

DIAS resubmitted, and YES vote attached.  Hope we can now all follow suit and end this game already.

Mike
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"Sit Long, Talk Much, Laugh Often" -- anon
"Shared Pain is lessened, Shared Joy is increased" --- Spider Robinson