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Author:AncientMemories
Posted:May 20, 2011 at 11:52 am
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At least for me it was very straight forward. Certainly by winter 1901, but i am pretty sure by the start of spring, we'd decided to try and do a western triple, and we got enough early success that continuing the alliance was attractive to everyone involved. There was a lot of disorder in the east, which made it so were never really fighting the entire army of a given country until it was too late. After the initial year one greetings that get exchanged between everyone, i really had very little press with anyone except Jeff and Bret, and all of that was in a communal thread so this was very little headache. I did get a few messages from italy and turkey, mostly trying to get me to attack france, but things were going well for the birts, and we all had strong enough garrisons that any stabs would be tough to pull of getting more than one center, so switching sides was unappealing. Turkey probably got me closest, just because i liked his infomercial so much, but even then it was more that i liked his style than that i thought i would do better with him.

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Subject: RE: DC377; Turkey EOG
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 23:02:26 -0700





I'll agree with John on this one - this game was, from my perspective, one of the most straightforward games I've played in a while.  Basically the western triple was setup at the very beginning of the game.  The first part of the game was spent trying to hide this fact (no idea how well we did at this) and I think we were helped immensly by the fact that I/R/T all focused first on eliminating Austria.  By the time Austria was out of the game, I think the only thing that could have changed the outcome was if I/R/T had fully aligned against us immediately.  The alliance was also helped dramatically by how well we were aligned to never threaten each other - any stab would have been a multi-turn one and would have been only partially effective.  John's attempts to sway England and myself (I'm sad I didn't get such a well written attempt to convince me to join him!) failed, I think, in a large way since the stab was hard to be sure of...

 

Darryl: thank you very much for a well GM'd game! 

 

Everyone else: thank you for a well played game!

 

-Jeff
 


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Subject: RE: DC377; Turkey EOG
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 22:38:56 -0500



I'm generally a long EOG kind of guy, but honestly, this one was pretty basic. Fished around for a solid three-way. Found it in the moderately satisfying combo of T-R-I. Austria died quick. Then I needed to head somewhere. I headed north, expecting Italy to side with me. I truly believe if he had done so, this game would have been much more interesting, and perhaps even ended differently. But Italy turned on me and our internal strife left russia and italy defenseless to the Western powers.

I site the betrayal of Italy as a key moment because had he  gone west, we might have been able to seal the med, while I blocked the overland route. But even more so, I had favorable relations with France for much of the game and in past games as well, and I held out hope that If Italy and I put up enough of a fight, France might have been swayed to work with me vs italy and then vs E/G. As it was, I just never had a big enough carrot to dangle for any of the Western Triple. Realizing the futility of my position, I marshalled my diplomatic skills to try to sway england with what, I think, was perhaps one of the best pieces of diplomatic mail I had composed, selling the idea of The Turkish Alliance in an infomercial kind of style. It was my last hope, but, alas, England rebuffed it.

I probably worked least on Germany because I had almost literally nothing to offer him. He was a better target than an ally for me, and neither other power was biting. So the draw was the best I could do.

John
 

Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 19:26:56 -0600
Subject: DC377; Fall 1908 Results
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GM's remarks:


 


England, France, and Germany achieve Victory!  The 3-way draw passes unanimously to end the game.  Congratulations Phin, Jeff, and Bret.


 


I hope everyone will take the time to write a complete End-of-Game (EOG) Statement.  I am sure that there are several places where Scott (Austria) is curious why some of you did not side with him at some key decision points.  And, as Rich (Russia) has noted, he is interested in why it took so long to realize the situation in the north.  Feel free to reply to all when you are ready send them out.  Or, send it directly to me and I will be happy to include them all in one sending.


 


I hope that my early errors (dropping the ball while on travel and erroneously taking Jeff's first set of orders one season) did not affect your enjoyment of the game too drastically.  AND, I hope you all will return for Winter Blitz 2012.  Best Regards.  Darryl (dipknight(at)gmail.com)


 


 


The Players:


ID                               Country      Name                   Email                                              Location


Koensig                     Austria        Scott Johnston   Johnston.scott(at)comcast.net   Federal Way, WA, US


AncientMemories  England       Phin Agar            mcagar(at)hotmail.com                Weston, MA, US


JeffreyK                     France        Jeffrey Krauss     diplomacy(at)jeffreyk.com          Kirkland, WA, US


bret_pollack             Germany    Bret Pollack        bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com      Marriottsville, MD, US


stendaswargames   Italy             Dorian Love        dlove(at)roedeanschool.co.za    Johannesburg, Gauteng, ZA


RICH3520                  Russia         RICH SLOPER      RICH3520(at)AOL.COM                WILLISTON PARK, NY, US


untitled36                 Turkey        john reside         untitled36(at)hotmail.com          IL, US


 


 


The Orders:


Austria:


   Eliminated Summer 1903


 


England:
   Draw Winner (EFG)


 


France:
   Draw Winner (EFG)


 


Germany:
   Draw Winner (EFG)


 


Italy:
   Eliminated Winter 1907


  


Russia:
   Eliminated Fall 1907


 


Turkey:
   Survival


 


 


Retreats:
   None Required
 


 


Centers and Unit Positions:


Austria:


   Eliminated Summer 1903


 


England:
   Centers (Cool: bel, edi, lvp, lon, mos, nwy, stp, swe.
   Units: F bar, A edi, F lvp, A mos, F nwg, A stp, F swe, A ukr
   Build/Disband:  0
 


France:
   Centers (10): bre, mar, nap, par, por, rom, spa, tri, tun, ven.
   Units: A alb, F apu, F lyo, F ion, A mar, F nap, A par, A tri, F tys, A ven
   Build/Disband:  0
           


Germany:
   Centers (9): ber, bud, den, hol, kie, mun, rum, vie, war.
   Units: A bud, F den, A gal, F kie, A pru, A rum, A ser, A trl, A war
   Build/Disbands: 0
                           


Italy:
   Eliminated Winter 1907


Russia:
   Eliminated Fall 1907
 


Turkey:
   Centers (7): ank, bul, con, gre, ser, sev, smy.
   Units: F aeg, F bla, A bul, F eas, F gre, A sev
   Build/Disband:  +1

This message is in reply to post 20723:

I'm generally a long EOG kind of guy, but honestly, this one was pretty basic. Fished around for a solid three-way. Found it in the moderately satisfying combo of T-R-I. Austria died quick. Then I needed to head somewhere. I headed north, expecting Italy to side with me. I truly believe if he had done so, this game would have been much more interesting, and perhaps even ended differently. But Italy turned on me and our internal strife left russia and italy defenseless to the Western powers.

I site the betrayal of Italy as a key moment because had he  gone west, we might have been able to seal the med, while I blocked the overland route. But even more so, I had favorable relations with France for much of the game and in past games as well, and I held out hope that If Italy and I put up enough of a fight, France might have been swayed to work with me vs italy and then vs E/G. As it was, I just never had a big enough carrot to dangle for any of the Western Triple. Realizing the futility of my position, I marshalled my diplomatic skills to try to sway england with what, I think, was perhaps one of the best pieces of diplomatic mail I had composed, selling the idea of The Turkish Alliance in an infomercial kind of style. It was my last hope, but, alas, England rebuffed it.

I probably worked least on Germany because I had almost literally nothing to offer him. He was a better target than an ally for me, and neither other power was biting. So the draw was the best I could do.

John

 

There are 3 Messages in this Thread:


DC377; Turkey EOG (untitled36) May 19, 10:38 pm

DC377; Turkey EOG (JeffreyK) May 20, 01:02 am

DC377; Turkey EOG (AncientMemories) May 20, 11:52 am

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