Hey all,




I do take responsibility for not noticing or notifying Eric about the error sooner. I lost computer access over the weekend & and so didn't have an opportunity to look over the results and talk to him about it.




I do apologize for the inconvenience




Matt





From: Michael Sims <mike(at)fuzzylogicllc.com>
To: Gerry Bayer
<starhop8(at)gmail.com>; Gareth Griffiths <gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Palmer <eric.s.palmer(at)gmail.com>; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397 <dc397(at)diplomaticcorp.com>; Garry Bledsoe <kielmarch(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902











Hey guys,


 


Interesting there.  I believe that is a typo in the rules that needs fixing.  "major turn" in any sense I've ever considered it - is spring and fall.  "minor turns" are summer retreats, autumn retreats, and winter adjustments.  Even the game manual defines them this way, those being just phases of the major turn - to the extent your'e not even supposed to diplome on the winter phase, you're just supposed to submit your builds.  The intent there, albeit indicated wrongly, is that if a major turn passes, one wouldn't back up a spring or fall turn since these generally reveal the results of substantial negotiations.


 


As always, in the house rules is that the GM always has final say, so whatever Eric decides is fine w me.


 


I'll discuss w Garry but we'll probly tweak the rule later as a result of that being pointed out...


 


Your friendly mod,


-mike


 






From: Gerry Bayer [mailto:starhop8(at)gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 10/27/2011 11:36 AM
To: Gareth Griffiths
Cc: Eric Palmer; bret_pollack(at)hotmail.com; flexpoint1(at)gmail.com; gizmo8204(at)yahoo.com; jsfyfield(at)gmail.com; james_32(at)bigpond.com; dc397; Michael Sims
Subject: Re: DC397 - Corrected Fall 1901 Results - Redo for Winter/Spring 1902




 I also agree with replaying in this situation . Gareth does make a good point regarding the rule so that we're clear on what happens should this occur again .

Gerry



On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Gareth Griffiths <gnr.griffiths(at)gmail.com> wrote:




Hi all,

I've not got a problem with re-doing winter and spring as I think it will make the game more interesting.

However, since we're meant to be following the DC house rule, the error should have stood:

'Any errors in adjudications must be brought to the attention of the GM before the next major deadline (Spring, Fall, Winter) else that error will stand.'

I'm only bringing this up in case there's an error in future as I think we should follow the rule correctly from now on and everyone should be aware of it.

Gareth (Germany)








On 27/10/2011 03:11, Eric Palmer wrote:

I've made a huge mistake.





I entered wrong orders for Fall 1901.






Here's what's going to happen:






I will not reveal or adjudicate the orders I just received for Spring 1902 and we will replay Winter 1901 and Spring 1902.






So we'll start with builds (Winter 1901).






You have 48 hours to confirm the builds you've submitted or resubmit build orders (or submit build orders for the first time in the cases of Austria and Italy). If I don't receive a confirmation in the next 48 hours (by 28 OCT 2 AM GMT), I will leave your builds as previously submitted. If I receive confirmations or changes prior to this deadline, I may send out an announcement of the builds earlier. From then, you'll have four days (unless anyone requires an extension) to submit new Spring 1902 orders. (I'll send notice of the deadline with the build results).






I sincerely regret and apologize for the confusion and the waste of time and energy this mistake and the redo may cause, but I believe it is clearly unfair for two players to be short units they should have been awarded, especially at this early point in the game.






While I do not anticipate any further GM mistakes during the game, please bring ANY issues with results to my attention as early as possible.






 - Eric Palmer (your erstwhile GM)






Here are the corrected results for Fall 1901.








Austria: 


F Albania - Greece


A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece


A Vienna - Trieste (*Bounce*)






England: 


A Edinburgh - Norway


F London - English Channel


F North Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Norway






France: 


F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean


A Gascony - Spain


A Spain - Portugal






Germany: 


F Denmark Hold


A Kiel - Holland


A Ruhr - Belgium






Italy: 


A Apulia - Tunis


F Ionian Sea Convoys A Apulia - Tunis


A Venice - Trieste (*Bounce*)






Russia: 


A Galicia - Budapest


F Gulf of Bothnia - Sweden


F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania


A Ukraine - Rumania






Turkey: 


F Ankara Hold


A Bulgaria Supports A Apulia - Greece (*Void*)


A Constantinople - Smyrna







BUILDS: 


Austria 1


England 1


France 2


Germany 3


Italy 1


Russia 3


Turkey 1