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Author:packrat
Posted:May 04, 2010 at 6:40 am
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It was press - NOT any sort of personal attack.

From: phantomas <phantomas13(at)orange.fr>
To: Gregory Olson <olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com>; Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com>
Cc: Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>; douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com; dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com
Sent: Tue, May 4,
2010 6:07:21 AM
Subject: RE: DC317; Spring and Summer 1906 Results
















Hi all,

 

I???m
back. My internet issues are fixed in the end and I have a new and fast
connection.

 

I???m
not surprised to see that my country is eliminated of course J but I???m surprised to see the bad atmosphere which
prevails in this game.

 

I
just read the past adjudications and I saw that there were many NMRs (including
mine of course) in quite each turn which distort the good running of the game
and falsify the results of the whole tournament.

 

It???s
a pity too to see messages like the latest where people insult themselves. It???s
a game. Don???t forget that!

It???s
unfortunate to be stabbed of course and one don???t like that (even me) but
it???s not a reason to utter insults.

 

Maybe
seeing some of you in the WB11???

 

Regards,

 

Jluc.

 

 



De :
Gregory Olson [mailtoSurprisedlson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com]

Envoy?? : mardi 4 mai 2010
04:05

?? : Packrat

Cc : Darryl Good;
douglasefresh(at)gmail.com; dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com;
nephilli99(at)hotmail.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr; blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com;
dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Objet : Re: DC317; Spring and
Summer 1906 Results



 

Hello all,



Since the message was sent to everyone, I wanted to take a brief second to
respond in front of everyone.



I have been the recipient of quite a few stabs and have orchestrated a few
myself. I feel bad every time I screw someone over, and kick myself for being
so stupid when I myself am the victim. When it comes down to it, however, this
is why I play Diplomacy. The pieces are a backdrop to the personalities, and
tactics are subordinate to tact, in my mind. This is exactly why I do not play
gunboat variants;  I enjoy matching wits with other players. I know that
everyone is playing to win themselves. I find the tension created while
simultaneously working with others and for yourself engaging. I am sorry,
Scott, for lying to you and that I stabbed you, but I am not sorry that this is
how the game is made. Maybe I am just another idiot, maybe this specific move might
not work out the best, but I made a judgment call and went with it. Maybe no
real tactician/strategist would do such a move, but a diplomat might.



I do not want to enter into an argument with you. I did not attack you for any
personal reasons, and hope that you can look past my moves in this game when
judging me as a player, or indeed as a person. Good luck,



- Greg



On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Packrat <brn2dip(at)yahoo.com> wrote:







Not sure why any of you
would care - but this is the message I just sent to

Italy.  Please bear in mind that he will jump to 12 and will more than
likely

turn on Russia next.  I'd like to think Germany and I could put things
behind

us, but that isn't likely.



Anyway - this is what I sent to Italy and, yeah, it really is how I see it.



Yup - believe it or not, that is as I expected.  Thought I'd take
the chance

anyway.  This is one reason I only play gunboat now.  People have no

honor in this game and that's quite the shame.  Sure stabs are part of the

game but they lack creativity and don't show any real tactical prowess,

No strategy.  ANY idiot can stab but a truly good strategist/tactician

plays the GAME and doesn't let the game play him.



So POR/SPA and MAR fall to you.  Enjoy your victory - ANY idiot

could have done what you did.  ANY.





 









 













From:
Darryl Good <dipknight(at)gmail.com>

To: douglasefresh(at)gmail.com;
olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com;
dadidea(at)gmail.com; MDemagogue(at)gmail.com; nephilli99(at)hotmail.com;
brn2dip(at)yahoo.com; phantomas13(at)orange.fr

Cc: blitz(at)diplomaticcorp.com;
dc317(at)diplomaticcorp.com

Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 8:16:13 PM

Subject: DC317; Spring and Summer
1906 Results







 

GM???s remarks:

 

Not sure it would have made much of a difference; but, Turkey NMR???s
again.

 

With no viable retreat, Turkey???s army in Constantinople is
disbanded.  And, with only one viable retreat, Germanys retreat was
performed automatically.  Doug, if you would have preferred the unit was
retreated off-the-board, please let me know before tomorrow evening so that I
can post a correction.

 

The Players:

Austria         Eliminated
Winter 1904

England        Eliminated Winter
1905

France         
packrat                    
scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com

Germany       Douglas_E_Fresh  
Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com


Italy             
evapollo88             
Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com


Russia         
Nigs                        
Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com


Turkey         
Jeremiah                 
Jeremiah Lee         dadidea(at)gmail.com

 

The Orders:

Austria:

   Eliminated Winter 1904

 

England:

   Eliminated Winter 1905

 

France:

   F bel Supports F bre - eng (*Cut*)

   A boh - mun (*Fails*)

   F bre - eng

   A bur Supports A boh - mun

   F cly - nwg

   F eng - iri

   F mao - nao

   A pic Supports F bel

 

Germany:

   F edi Supports F nth

   A hol - bel (*Fails*)

   A kie Supports A mun

   A lvn - war (*Dislodged*)

   A mun, no move received

   F nth Hold

   A nwy Supports F stp(sc)

   A sil Supports A mun

   F stp(sc) Hold

 

Italy:

   F aeg Supports F smy - con

   F lyo Convoys A pie - spa

   A pie - spa

   F smy - con

   A tri - trl (*Bounce*)

   A trl - pie

   F tys - wes

   A vie - trl (*Bounce*)

 

Russia:

   F ank Supports F smy - con

   A fin - stp (*Fails*)

   A mos Supports A war - lvn

   A rum - bul

   A sev - ukr

   A ukr - gal

   A war - lvn

 

Turkey:

   A con, no move received (*Disbanded*)

   A syr, no move received

 

Retreats:

   Germany: A lvn - pru

 

Centers and Unit Positions:

Austria:

   Eliminated Winter 1904

 

England:

   Eliminated Winter 1905

 

France:

   Centers (7) bel, bre,
lvp, lon, mar, par, por, spa.

   Units: F bel, A boh, A bur,
F eng, F iri, F nao, F nwg, A pic

   Build/Disband:  0

           


Germany:

   Centers (9): ber, den, edi,
hol, kie, mun, nwy, stp, swe.

   Units: F edi, A hol, A kie,
A mun, F nth, A nwy, A pru, A sil, F stp(sc)

   Build/Disbands: 0

 

Italy:

   Centers (Cool gre, nap,
rom, smy, tri, tun, ven, vie.

   Units: F aeg, F con, F lyo,
A pie, A spa, A tri, A vie, F wes

   Build/Disband:  0

 

Russia:

   Centers (6) ank, bud,
mos, rum, ser, sev, war.

   Units: F ank, A bul, A fin,
A gal, A lvn, A mos, A ukr

   Build/Disband:  0

 

Turkey:

   Centers (3) bul, con.

   Units: A syr

   Build/Disband:  +1

 

Deadline:

1906 Fall Orders: Thursday; May 6, 24:00 Hrs GMT

 

Maps of the Orders, Retreats, and Results; and the dpy file are
attached for your use.















 

This message is in reply to post 16020:

GM's remarks:
 
Not sure it would have made much of a difference; but, Turkey NMR's again.
 
With no viable retreat, Turkey's army in Constantinople is disbanded.  And, with only one viable retreat, Germanys retreat was performed automatically.  Doug, if you would have preferred the unit was retreated off-the-board, please let me know before tomorrow evening so that I can post a correction.
 
The Players:
Austria         Eliminated Winter 1904
England        Eliminated Winter 1905
France          packrat                     scott troemel         brn2dip(at)yahoo.com
Germany       Douglas_E_Fresh   Douglas Fresh       douglasefresh(at)gmail.com
Italy              evapollo88              Greg Olson           olson.gregoryscott(at)gmail.com
Russia          Nigs                         Nigel Phillips         nephilli99(at)hotmail.com
Turkey          Jeremiah                  Jeremiah Lee         dadidea(at)gmail.com
 
The Orders:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   F bel Supports F bre - eng (*Cut*)
   A boh - mun (*Fails*)
   F bre - eng
   A bur Supports A boh - mun
   F cly - nwg
   F eng - iri
   F mao - nao
   A pic Supports F bel
 
Germany:
   F edi Supports F nth
   A hol - bel (*Fails*)
   A kie Supports A mun
   A lvn - war (*Dislodged*)
   A mun, no move received
   F nth Hold
   A nwy Supports F stp(sc)
   A sil Supports A mun
   F stp(sc) Hold
 
Italy:
   F aeg Supports F smy - con
   F lyo Convoys A pie - spa
   A pie - spa
   F smy - con
   A tri - trl (*Bounce*)
   A trl - pie
   F tys - wes
   A vie - trl (*Bounce*)
 
Russia:
   F ank Supports F smy - con
   A fin - stp (*Fails*)
   A mos Supports A war - lvn
   A rum - bul
   A sev - ukr
   A ukr - gal
   A war - lvn
 
Turkey:
   A con, no move received (*Disbanded*)
   A syr, no move received
 
Retreats:
   Germany: A lvn - pru
 
Centers and Unit Positions:
Austria:
   Eliminated Winter 1904
 
England:
   Eliminated Winter 1905
 
France:
   Centers (7) bel, bre, lvp, lon, mar, par, por, spa.
   Units: F bel, A boh, A bur, F eng, F iri, F nao, F nwg, A pic
   Build/Disband:  0
           
Germany:
   Centers (9): ber, den, edi, hol, kie, mun, nwy, stp, swe.
   Units: F edi, A hol, A kie, A mun, F nth, A nwy, A pru, A sil, F stp(sc)
   Build/Disbands: 0
 
Italy:
   Centers (Cool gre, nap, rom, smy, tri, tun, ven, vie.
   Units: F aeg, F con, F lyo, A pie, A spa, A tri, A vie, F wes
   Build/Disband:  0
 
Russia:
   Centers (6) ank, bud, mos, rum, ser, sev, war.
   Units: F ank, A bul, A fin, A gal, A lvn, A mos, A ukr
   Build/Disband:  0
 
Turkey:
   Centers (3) bul, con.
   Units: A syr
   Build/Disband:  +1
 
Deadline:
1906 Fall Orders: Thursday; May 6, 24:00 Hrs GMT
 
Maps of the Orders, Retreats, and Results; and the dpy file are attached for your use.

There are 9 Messages in this Thread:


DC317; Spring and Summer 1906 Results (dipknight) May 03, 07:16 pm

DC317; Spring and Summer 1906 Results (packrat) May 03, 07:36 pm

DC317; Spring and Summer 1906 Results (evapollo88) May 03, 09:05 pm

DC317; Spring and Summer 1906 Results (packrat) May 03, 09:20 pm

DC317; Spring and Summer 1906 Results (MDemagogue) May 03, 10:17 pm

DC317; Spring and Summer 1906 Results (txurce) May 03, 11:57 pm

DC317; Spring and Summer 1906 Results (phantomas) May 04, 05:07 am

DC317; Spring and Summer 1906 Results (Douglas_E_Fresh) May 04, 05:34 am

DC317; Spring and Summer 1906 Results (packrat) May 04, 06:40 am

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