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Author:Kenshi777
Posted:Mar 17, 2010 at 10:43 pm
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Further on the issue of balance, I think all the southern 2-centre powers
get a very raw deal.


***Agreed. I think all 2 SC powers on the map will be increased to 3
actually. There are a lot of reasons why having 2 SCs to start is a
bad thing.

Bolivia has no guaranteed gains,

***...a reason I am strongly considering removing the Andes rule -
would this help, along with a 3rd SC to start?

and is practically

thrown right into the fray against Chile from the outset as Golfo de Guafo
borders a home centre for both.


***...true, but this has the added effect of making Chile think twice
about dogpiling Argentina with Paraguay. I would like to retain that
dynamic, even if this particular sea zone does get redrawn.

Paraguay gets a slightly nore prosperous

first year, but then is likely to come under heavy attack from the much
larger Brasil, whil Argentina seems to be the Austria - nice initial growth
potential, but in between lots of powers.


***I always thought of Paraguay as the Austria - perhaps with a third
SC (maybe a fleet?) this will be better.

In the north, Venezuela probably gets two early builds to sit it on four
centres and a comfortable size


***Not sure if this is a given - doesn't Colombia at least consider F
Car - SaM/GDa and A Bog - Lla?

, though all four of these countries suffer > the disadvantage of only
being able to build two units a turn, which > presumably can become
important as the game goes on and powers are capable > of taking many
centres in a turn.

***Agreed - all two SC powers must go. This is doable.

Compare this with the rich earlygrowth potential of Brasil and Columbia.
Brasil probably get 2 or 3 builds putting it on 5 or 6 centres, with a good
offensive and defensive position and but a nasty case of early leader
syndrome. Columbia should really be getting two centres in the first year
(if not, why not?), ideally putting it on 5 to Venezuela's 4 and Peru's 3.


***Peru is given only to have 3? Why not Iquitos and either Galapagos
or Arica? Especially if Bolivia and Chile are destined to fight over
GdG? Not to say that the fight in GdG is not a good thing if it's
forced, but still - I see Peru as a strong candidate to get 4.
Peru/Bolivia should be a strong alliance option, even as the map is.

As seen, these two can then team up on Columbia, but I don't think his
position is any worse than a Russia with England and Turkey looking at him
with hostility. In fact, I still think a bit of deft play could see Peru
repelled with an extra fleet, while Venezuela is stalled in the north with
the remaining fleet and army. Another build could see that flank becoming
increasingly secure.


***True - Peru is disadvantaged. How would A Iquitos as a starting
SC/unit do to help with that?

In my opinion, tactical play really starts working at four units and above,
which I think is why all countries in Standard (bar England in the case of
an aggressively northward-looking Russian) have at least one centre they can
claim without contest. With two, you basically have to guess whether or not
to risk an opponent taking your home centre or not. I think in the average
game, the starting differences in size are more likely to magnify rather
than equalise.


***Agreed.

[quote:dd395c8c8f]Hopefully that's helped!

[/quote:dd395c8c8f]
***Absolutely - thanks! Please keep it coming - I'm listening!

B.

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This message is in reply to post 15048:

Chileans can be heard singing "llama llama llama llama llama solo llama" everywhere as they wrap up a win under the awesome leadership of Gary. Yes, Gary gets his gold star today w his second solo in dc!

What more can be said?
Just "Gary". "He's the man". "With the only name nobody in South America will ever forget, for he leads it all!

Business cards are ordered.

"Gary - The South American Dominator". "Got a country? Call us! We'll capture it, squash the resistance, and assimilate it into GaryLand". "Your centers are our centers." "Really".

"Got Centers?" "Nope, Gary took'em".

EGS's are encouraged from all!
Hope it was fun,
-mike

RETREATS (irrelevant):

Brasil:
disband A Parana
A Rio Grande do Sul - Sao Paulo
A Santa Cruz - Riberalta

ORDERS:

Brasil:
A Angostura - Caracas (*Fails*)
A Barinas Supports A Angostura - Caracas
F Boca de Navios - Cumana
F Golfo de Paria Supports F Boca de Navios - Cumana
A Iquitos - Cusco
A Manaus - Mato Grosso (*Fails*)
A Mato Grosso - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A Orinoco Hold
A Parana Supports A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Rio Grande do Sul - Misiones (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Cruz - Potosi (*Dislodged*)
A Santa Marta - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Sao Paulo - Rio de Janeiro

Chile:
F Arequipa Supports F Bahia de Arica - Lima
A Asuncion Supports A Misiones - Parana
F Bahia de Arica - Lima (*Fails*)
F Bahia de Paranagua Supports F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
F Bahia Todos os Santos - Salvador
A Chaco Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Concepcion - Pantanal (*Bounce*)
A La Paz Supports A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Misiones - Parana
F Montevideo - Rio Grande do Sul
A Potosi - Santa Cruz
A Salta Hold
A Santa Fe - Misiones (*Bounce*)
F South Pacific Ocean - Golfo de San Jorge
F Pacific Ocean - Bahia Sechura (*Fails*)

Colombia:
A Aquiris Hold
F Bahia Sechura Hold
F Galapagos Supports F Bahia Sechura
F Lima Hold
A Llanos Supports A Maracaibo
A Panama - Cartagena (*Bounce*)
A Trujillo Supports F Lima

Venezuela:
A Caracas Supports F Cumana (*Cut*)
F Cumana Supports A Caracas (*Disbanded*)
A Maracaibo Supports A Caracas

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